Dave Clawson to East Carolina?

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Good for him. Hope he gets the job. Step up after step up for the guy. If he gets the job he will soon rule C-USA with an iron fist.
 
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He can't possibly take that job if offered. Leaving a program after one season makes you an awful person. Didn't you get the memo?
 
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hatvol96 said:
Remember how classless it is when you get a chance to take a better job.
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It's not that he just took a better job, it's the way he left the UT football program. UT may not have a program as good as USC's at the moment, but it's still a damn good, tradition rich program. I know Al Davis is a nutcase, but that didn't change the fact that Kiffin looked really bad after that whole incident in Oakland. UT gave him a chance. Kiffin's choices seemed to be between UT, Clemson, and Washington. Maybe not, I'm not exactly clear, but the Vols really went out on a limb to give him a shot at a major football program. Kiffin went on talking about whatever he pleased. I'm not saying he shouldn't have done that, but he did cause a lot of enemies. That left all of us Vols fans to deal with that. Now that he's gone, it's the fans that look stupid. He was supposed to make UT better, and we aren't any better off than we were right after Fulmer was fired.
He basically had a choice. Fix the program that gave him a chance or just hang them out to dry. How long did he even spend considering it? It seems like he said yes before USC even offered. He knew what he was doing to Tennessee. He knew that he was setting the program back at least a few years, and he knew recruits would start bailing with little time to get a new close and fix the situation, and I'm pretty sure it didn't bother him at all. He basically chose to damage the program. Did he do his job well while he was here? Yes. But he willingly let that all go to hell. Kiffin is the reason we have Dooley as our head coach. And 5 years from now if we are still struggling and looking for a new head coach, it will be largely Kiffin's fault.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Remember how classless it is when you get a chance to take a better job.
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I feel confident in saying that if a major company went out on a limb to hire me to an important position, I wouldn't do anything which I felt would be destructive to that company, even if it meant turning down what is essentially the same job in a better location.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I'm pretty sure it didn't bother him at all.
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Nor should it. At the end of the day, Kiffin's only loyalty should be to himself. You think UT would have had any qualms about firing him with time left on his contract if he strung a couple of 5-7s together? It's a business. People who want to act as if coaching at UT is some sort of sacred trust need to wake the Hell up and join the real world.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Nor should it. At the end of the day, Kiffin's only loyalty should be to himself. You think UT would have had any qualms about firing him with time left on his contract if he strung a couple of 5-7s together? It's a business. People who want to act as if coaching at UT is some sort of sacred trust need to wake the Hell up and join the real world.
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You don't think it should matter at all that UT was willing to give him a chance after his previous situation. I would assume he would be a little grateful that he was at Tennessee and not Clemson. He completely screwed Tennessee. We're in so much trouble in the near future because of what Kiffin did. I blame Hamilton for making it so easy for Kiffin to bail, but there is no denying he essentially chose UT's fate.
 
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tvolsfan said:
He was hired to make UT better. We aren't any better off than when he took the job.
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How good was Tennessee's '09 recruiting class? Did they lose to Georgia and South Carolina again? Did they finish with a losing record again?
 
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tvolsfan said:
He was hired to make UT better. We aren't any better off than when he took the job.
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He did a good job at Richmond, took BG to a bowl this year, had one of the best receivers in the nation.

With the success Clawson has had at other jobs with less talent than we have at UT leads one to believe the problem he had at UT was the HC hired him as the OC but would not allow him to run his offense.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Remember how classless it is when you get a chance to take a better job.
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There's a difference at certain exec positions like CEO. Those guys have succession plans and shepherd in the new guy, unless hammered for cause.
 
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hatvol96 said:
How good was Tennessee's '09 recruiting class? Did they lose to Georgia and South Carolina again? Did they finish with a losing record again?
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7-6, and set up for failure in 2010. UT would be far better off if he never came.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
There's a difference at certain exec positions like CEO. Those guys have succession plans and shepherd in the new guy, unless hammered for cause.
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Not always. Also, I love how everyone is decrying Kiffin's lack of "loyalty" to UT. Ask Bob Huggins what kind of loyalty he got after passing on three NBA jobs and multiple great college jobs to stay at Cincinnati. Ask Larry Eustachy how loyal Iowa State was to him at the first sign of trouble. Ask Barry Switzer how much OU stood behind him. If people were honest and simply said, "I only yell about loyalty when it benefits the team whose color laundry I root for" I'd be fine with it. Instead, everyone gets sanctimonious and acts as if Kiffin pissed on the altar at the Sistine Chapel.
 
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