Dave Hart's approval rating?

Dave Hart's approval ratting ?


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What is Dave Hart's approval rating for this hire at this moment?

Yes the common answer is lets see how it plays out on the field, but now that you have had a day to get to research CBJ how do you think it will pan out?
 
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For Butch, I'll start him at 50 because he hasn't really done anything good or bad yet. Maybe a little lower based on his coaching staff so far.

But Hart? 0.
 
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On a scale of one to ten I'll give it a -1. No offense to coach Jones but this hire was well below what should be expected at the University of Tennessee. Coach Jones may turn out to be a fantastic hire but if he does it will be because of sheer luck.
 
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What is Dave Hart's approval rating for this hire at this moment?

Yes the common answer is lets see how it plays out on the field, but now that you have had a day to get to research CBJ how do you think it will pan out?

He has said all the right things and keeping JG was a plus, but like you said we'll see how it all plays out on the field.

I really hope he can get the job done since we really don't need to do this all over again in three years.
 
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On a scale of one to ten I'll give it a -1. No offense to coach Jones but this hire was well below what should be expected at the University of Tennessee. Coach Jones may turn out to be a fantastic hire but if he does it will be because of sheer luck.

disagree. Luck will only carry you so far and if he does succeed here, it's because he and his staff have done a good job.
 
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disagree. Luck will only carry you so far and if he does succeed here, it's because he and his staff have done a good job.

I don't think he's saying the coaches will have gotten lucky. It's more that Hart's gamble would have paid off, but it's a gamble he never should have taken in the first place at a place like Tennessee.
 
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On a scale of one to ten I'll give it a -1. No offense to coach Jones but this hire was well below what should be expected at the University of Tennessee. Coach Jones may turn out to be a fantastic hire but if he does it will be because of sheer luck.

^This exactly
Jones seems like a great guy and has had success but he's the WRONG hire at the wrong time in the wrong conference. And that's ALL on Hart
Answer to the poll is that he's not only killed the program but his career as well. I just hope to God that he doesn't take the whole Athletic department down with him.
 
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What is Dave Hart's approval rating for this hire at this moment?

Yes the common answer is lets see how it plays out on the field, but now that you have had a day to get to research CBJ how do you think it will pan out?

it's a good hire, but given the state of the program we needed a great hire
 
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I'm going to say 7-8 wins next year and contending for SEC in 2014

I'll give you 7 at the outside, but 8 would mean an upset and we are about witness most of our offensive production from last year hit the door. Plus I think it will take at least a year to fix what is wrong with our D.

A good DC will get some improvement out of our guys next year, but even a 40 spot improvement coupled with the lost offensive production doesn't equal out to more than 7 wins.
 
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I don't think he's saying the coaches will have gotten lucky. It's more that Hart's gamble would have paid off, but it's a gamble he never should have taken in the first place at a place like Tennessee.

Ah :eek:k:, my mistake then.
 
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I'll give you 7 at the outside, but 8 would mean an upset and we are about witness most of our offensive production from last year hit the door. Plus I think it will take at least a year to fix what is wrong with our D.

A good DC will get some improvement out of our guys next year, but even a 40 spot improvement coupled with the lost offensive production doesn't equal out to more than 7 wins.

I thing Georgia is a toss up/ most likely upset. Vandy should be a good game to watch as well.
 
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I'll give you 7 at the outside, but 8 would mean an upset and we are about witness most of our offensive production from last year hit the door. Plus I think it will take at least a year to fix what is wrong with our D.

A good DC will get some improvement out of our guys next year, but even a 40 spot improvement coupled with the lost offensive production doesn't equal out to more than 7 wins.

3 FCS schools, Auburn,Mizzou,Vandy, and Ky all very winnable. Split SC and GA and there's 8. Not saying done deal but in the realm of possibility. Remember, Dooley is gone.
 
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I thing Georgia is a toss up/ most likely upset. Vandy should be a good game to watch as well.

Georgia will lose quite a bit this year, but so will we and given the advantage they already have against us, it'll be tough to pull the upset.

Auburn is the game I'm most interested in. We'll get to see which coach will have made the biggest stride in getting his team back on track.
 
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Georgia will lose quite a bit this year, but so will we and given the advantage they already have against us, it'll be tough to pull the upset.

Auburn is the game I'm most interested in. We'll get to see which coach will have made the biggest stride in getting his team back on track.

Hadn't though of that. Really looking foreword to it now. Thanks
 
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Needed an option for "regardless of the hire, the process was a dumpster fire and an embarrassment, fire him immediately", IMO.
 
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3 FCS schools, Auburn,Mizzou,Vandy, and Ky all very winnable. Split SC and GA and there's 8. Not saying done deal but in the realm of possibility. Remember, Dooley is gone.

I don't disagree with the first 7, but we have to admit that Vandy isn't the push over that they've been for the last 50 years. The question is can they sustain the momentum from this past year?

As for SC and UGA, anything is possible and we do get them at home this year, but I think I'll keep my money in my wallet instead of betting on the upset. :)
 
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Needed an option for "regardless of the hire, the process was a dumpster fire and an embarrassment, fire him immediately", IMO.

(Insert some cleshay result based business phrase here)

How much of that was Hart/ How much was fan-media?

What should he have done differently?

I'm not disagreeing with you, just trying to understand your perspective.
 
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The more I read about the situation UT is in, the more I think Dave Hart may NOT be the problem.

I think the real problem lies with Cheek and those on the BOT that have bought into his misguided effort to make UT a "top 25 research institution". In those efforts, he has come close to killing the goose that laid the golden egg. TN athletics has provided financial support to the university for years - support it can no longer support because athletics has almost been destroyed.

You can have excellence in athletics and academics at the same time. The destruction of athletics has hurt the university as a whole and to remedy the situation I am more and more convinced the chancellor and those who agree with his failed policies need to be run out of town.
 
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(Insert some cleshay result based business phrase here)

How much of that was Hart/ How much was fan-media?

What should he have done differently?

I'm not disagreeing with you, just trying to understand your perspective.


It's a hard argument to have since none of the facts are public and people will make different assumptions based on who they believe about what actually went down. That said, from my perspective, it appears to me that AD Hart was hell-bent on not hiring Gruden from the get-go. [LWS, Skeeter] If that was the case, he didn't need to waste the first 11 days of the search (or whatever it was) killing that deal AND letting it fester and grow into this conquering hero legend within the fan base. He appears to have spent the majority of the last 20 days messing with that at the expense of having a good plan for who he was actually going to try to hire. Point two - if he wasn't going to announce the hire the day of Fulmer's HOF ceremony (which I agree with and respect), he should not have offered the job to Strong that day. [Hubbs] If he had waited to offer Strong until Wednesday, it would have been quickly announced (like Bielema and Malzahn) and Strong would not have had time to renege. Third, by several accounts, there was a period of time when Strong and Gundy both had offers. [Hubbs] If true, that's not a good thing. I also kind of have a further issue but it gets into the hiring of bUTch and I'm gonna leave it alone. (Nothing about Coach Jones himself, just a further question about the process.)

That's my perspective. Based on your question, it sounds like you may have a different belief of what actually happened which would, understandably, lead you to a different take on the way it was handled.
 
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Dave Hart's approval and how I feel about this hire are 2 different things. I'm semi-okay, wait-and-see with this hire, Hart screwed up in the process though, badly.
 
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