David Shaw(Stanford HC) Insults SEC and 20% Of His Own Roster

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Catbone said:
Let's face it guys. The southeast is mostly uneducated compared to the rest of the country. He's right.
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But that's not what he said now is it??????

He said that there might be only one person in each state that might get in to Stanford... once again, this was a bizarre comment considering that he aggressively recruited a 4 star player from Maryville, TN.
 
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T-TownVol said:
Prep schools PROUDLY publish their college acceptances.....just give us the school and the year....quite easy to look up......I will give you an out, you can admit you were exaggerating, as we all do, or you can say that you had 50 "apply" to Stanford and received a thank you letter back......your move....
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Some do. Mine didn't. In fact they never asked me all the colleges I was accepted to. We had five alone that went to MIT. Plenty others went to ivy league and some opted to stay home to be paid to go to UF. I really couldn't care less about you believing me or not Lol 👍
 
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T-TownVol said:
I will just leave this riiiiight here......no one look now.....ya hare


America?s Most (and Least) Educated States - 24/7 Wall St.
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Having a college degree doesn't mean one is educated. Likewise just because one doesn't have one doesn't mean they are uneducated.

The country depends upon those who secure technical training via lessor degrees and many of those folks make a lot of money running their own businesses.

We incorrectly equate "years in school" to how educated or intelligent a person is and that is wrong.
 
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The thing about Stanford is that their acceptance criteria leads them to diversity numbers that could be challenged by some to be discriminatory in nature.

While some will make fun of and poke at colleges and universities with acceptance criteria that is much less - those schools do give more students a chance to continue their education and hopefully rise above whatever situation they grew up with. And it annoys me when schools who still cater only to a certain sector of the population makes remarks to belittle these schools and the students who go there.
 
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volfan102455 said:
The thing about Stanford is that their acceptance criteria leads them to diversity numbers that could be challenged by some to be discriminatory in nature.

While some will make fun of and poke at colleges and universities with acceptance criteria that is much less - those schools do give more students a chance to continue their education and hopefully rise above whatever situation they grew up with. And it annoys me when schools who still cater only to a certain sector of the population makes remarks to belittle these schools and the students who go there.
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...and just like Duke basketball, Stanford will accept 4 and 5 star football players who fall well short of their standard admissions criteria for normal students. There is a disingenuous element to Shaw's comment. He knows that exceptions are made for athletes. Kahlil McKenzie, Jalen Hurd and Todd Kelly Jr all had offers from Stanford. If they had wanted to go there they would have been accepted.
 
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utvols88 said:
Some do. Mine didn't. In fact they never asked me all the colleges I was accepted to. We had five alone that went to MIT. Plenty others went to ivy league and some opted to stay home to be paid to go to UF. I really couldn't care less about you believing me or not Lol


I will take that as a "I was exaggerating"......no worries, we all do it.......I am sure that Stanford, which gets over 36,000 apps each year for 1,700 spots gave 50 of those spots to ONE school all the way across the country......but, I am sure YOUR prep school is better than any other in the country........by the way, the guidance office gets copied on ALL acceptance letters from colleges.....you are still stretching the truth....no worries.....
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volfan102455 said:
Having a college degree doesn't mean one is educated. Likewise just because one doesn't have one doesn't mean they are uneducated.

The country depends upon those who secure technical training via lessor degrees and many of those folks make a lot of money running their own businesses.

We incorrectly equate "years in school" to how educated or intelligent a person is and that is wrong.
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OoooooKay.....
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
...and just like Duke basketball, Stanford will accept 4 and 5 star football players who fall well short of their standard admissions criteria for normal students. There is a disingenuous element to Shaw's comment. He knows that exceptions are made for athletes. Kahlil McKenzie, Jalen Hurd and Todd Kelly Jr all had offers from Stanford. If they had wanted to go there they would have been accepted.
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I have no doubt that exceptions are made for students whom are deemed a benefit to the school. That is not to imply that the three young men you mentioned could not have met the criteria - I don't know that and they all seem to be very articulate young men and I am happy they are at UT.

And it is not just athletes - sometimes parents have money to spare or political influence that overrides entrance criteria.

The acceptance criteria is really for those students who have nothing to offer but their ability to excel in the classroom.
 
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volfan102455 said:
I have no doubt that exceptions are made for students whom are deemed a benefit to the school. That is not to imply that the three young men you mentioned could not have met the criteria - I don't know that and they all seem to be very articulate young men and I am happy they are at UT.

And it is not just athletes - sometimes parents have money to spare or political influence that overrides entrance criteria.

The acceptance criteria is really for those students who have nothing to offer but their ability to excel in the classroom.
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Right. My point was that Shaw's comment was extremely disingenuous. He knows damn well that any football player he wants to sign from the southeast would be accepted as long as they met the NCAA and Pac 12's minimum requirements for eligibility.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Really? Humor is subjective like most forms of entertainment but for me a casual dig like this is only funny when there is at least a shred of truth to it and it isn't so easily rebutted. All David Shaw did was play off of an old stereotype that southerners are dumb. It was a lazy dig - not Spurrier-esque at all.

...even fans on Stanford's site are pointing to Dylan Jackson (DE from Maryville, TN. Yeah, just down the road from our campus)...I'm sure this thread will reference him a dozen times before it's over.
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You're easily upset arent you?
 
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For everyone in here, educated =/= intelligent.

So saying a region is uneducated shouldn't necessarily be an insult. Likewise, saying someone is educated shouldn't necessarily be a compliment.
 
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ButchPlz said:
For everyone in here, educated =/= intelligent.

So saying a region is uneducated shouldn't necessarily be an insult. Likewise, saying someone is educated shouldn't necessarily be a compliment.
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Someone done went and gone all Nietzsche on us this morning. :loco:
 
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Still, there are plenty of people from every state that get into Stanford. That's not a good look for Shaw. If Coach K said something like this, people would be losing it.
 
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VKAman said:
Still, there are plenty of people from every state that get into Stanford. That's not a good look for Shaw. If Coach K said something like this, people would be losing it.
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It's easy to get into Stanford if you are a 5 star football player and it's easy to get into Duke if you are an ESPN top 10 basketball player. For either coach to pretend otherwise is simply dishonest.

Also, Reese Witherspoon (from Nashville) was accepted to Stanford even though by her own admission she was mostly an average student. She majored in English Literature for one year and dropped out. She even acknowledged on 'Late Night with David Letterman' that she was only accepted because of her celebrity status.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
You teach at Bishop Kenny or Bolles?
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I don't teach. And neither. I just asked a class mate it was 50 ivy and top tier schools, like Stanford. Stanford was 20ish. They announced it at graduation. I know several went there.

Sorry for the delay, I was at a conference. T-Town got his Jimmie's rustled while missing the main point lol.
 
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