Davis or Deshields

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JustaChicken said:
You're just an old grump Gule. If the lady Vols aren't doing well you'll find any reason to rain on the next teams parade. Kinda childish actually. After the lady Vols beat SC earlier this year I was the 1st to come here & say "great game vols!" Doubt you have congratulated any team other than your own for accomplishing something great.
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Don't pick on gule:crazy:. He has personal standards he has set for himself. We just ❤️ him anyway because he's family :).:rolleyes:
 
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Smallvol#1 said:
To be perfectly honest, almost every national champion gets "lucky" at least once during the championship season. Doesn't take anything away from winning it. National Champion is National Champion. Ask Baylor about the year they beat ATM three times and.............! Right, Bear?

One thing you can say, there was no egregiously biased reffing that gave a game away in the tournament this year. (Another issue Bear could address with great experience.)
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Good points
 
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There is always a certain amount of luck involved with winning a championship. Tennessee played Marist (as opposed to either MTSU or Ohio State) and Ole Miss (instead of Maryland or Oklahoma) to get to the FF in 2007 and wound up not having to play Duke, who was the heavy favorite to win the NC.

In 2008 we didn't have to play UConn as they lost to Stanford in the semis. UConn is undefeated in title games. And let's not forget we literally stole the game away from LSU in the semis.
 
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I just like spanking the occasional chicken, especially the braggadocios ones. lol


win 7 more nattys and then you can brag.
 
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JustaChicken said:
I get where you're coming but that's not our fault that neither UConn or Baylor didn't make the title game, nor is it our fault that Stanford beat ND. We played & won 6 games. UT had the talent to win those same 6 games, but it was consistency that plagued the lady Vols. So because SC didn't play MD, ND, UConn or Baylor (none reached the title game) we should feel like any less of a champion than had we did? We can't control any of that yet you have lady Vols fans saying "we were lucky to win". Come on guys & gals what ever happened to good sportsmanship.
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JusaChicken, although I hate that a SEC team, other than Tennessee, finally won a NCAA championship, I have to give your Dawn Staley led team, mad credit. I love Aja and u girls deserve it.
 
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Cb153181 said:
So who is the better player of the two? Davis has won a sec championship and taken her team to the final four in a year?!!
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Davis "takes her team" to the final four? That was all her? Her coach and team had nothing to do with it? Is that your point? Sounds like something D4H might say.

I have read some poorly started threads before, but this is exceptional.
 
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Teejay5952 said:
There isn't one player I would take over diamond in the country. If she played at uconn, Stanford or notre dame with better coaching she would easily be considered the best player in the country. There's a reason she is projected the #1 pick & the other "20 players across the country" aren't.
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Number 1 pick? Is this the same Diamond that made third team SEC? Seriously? And which of the three AAs would she replace on UCONN? When she does something more than lead a mediocre team in scoring with a poor shooting percentage then statements like this might carry some weight. She has a lot of potential but rarely uses it. It is a shame, really a shame.
 
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reno tony said:
Number 1 pick? Is this the same Diamond that made third team SEC? Seriously? And which of the three AAs would she replace on UCONN? When she does something more than lead a mediocre team in scoring with a poor shooting percentage then statements like this might carry some weight. She has a lot of potential but rarely uses it. It is a shame, really a shame.
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Diamond was projected as the number one pick in the WNBA draft by almost everybody. She didn't go so we will never know. She was projected is a fact not something that someone made up.
She got off to a slow start shooting but in the second half of the season she was right at 50 percent. I expect her senior season will be her best.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Diamond was projected as the number one pick in the WNBA draft by almost everybody. She didn't go so we will never know. She was projected is a fact not something that someone made up.
She got off to a slow start shooting but in the second half of the season she was right at 50 percent. I expect her senior season will be her best.
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IMO Diamond's chance to go #1 is because of her public perception of being a spectacular player to watch. Her public braggadocio attracts attention. The WNBA needs players who attract attention, and Diamond certainly can do that. She may miss shots and make uncatchable passes, but she looks good doing it. Hopefully the WNBA players can catch those passes. Diamond is prime material for getting fannies in the seats.
 
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reno tony said:
Number 1 pick? Is this the same Diamond that made third team SEC? Seriously? And which of the three AAs would she replace on UCONN? When she does something more than lead a mediocre team in scoring with a poor shooting percentage then statements like this might carry some weight. She has a lot of potential but rarely uses it. It is a shame, really a shame.
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It's amazing how so many UConn fans are still obsessed with Tennessee. Davis had a much worse shooting percentage but never got any criticism for it. Hope you enjoyed the WNBA Finals.
 
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BMvol27 said:
It's amazing how so many UConn fans are still obsessed with Tennessee. Davis had a much worse shooting percentage but never got any criticism for it. Hope you enjoyed the WNBA Finals.
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Are you saying his Screen Name is a typo? Shoulda been Geno Tony?

Ok, here's some. Kaela stinks. Although she did seem to get a considerable amount of credit for S Carolina's NC.
 
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reno tony said:
Number 1 pick? Is this the same Diamond that made third team SEC? Seriously? And which of the three AAs would she replace on UCONN? When she does something more than lead a mediocre team in scoring with a poor shooting percentage then statements like this might carry some weight. She has a lot of potential but rarely uses it. It is a shame, really a shame.
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Coaching is a big key if you know and watch basketball. Look at Kobe Bryant and what happened once he got Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan and the list goes on and on. Did you not see what Diamond did at UNC her freshman year having great coaching not to mention the coaching staff at UNC used Diamond like they did in high school. Under coach Geno, Diamond would go beast mode. Tells you something about our coaching staff when we have the most McDonald All American players in all of women's college basketball last year and we get put out in the 2nd round. WNBA scouts see great potential in Diamond that's why she would've been the #1 pick last year.
 
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reno tony said:
Number 1 pick? Is this the same Diamond that made third team SEC? Seriously? And which of the three AAs would she replace on UCONN? When she does something more than lead a mediocre team in scoring with a poor shooting percentage then statements like this might carry some weight. She has a lot of potential but rarely uses it. It is a shame, really a shame.
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Name one player in the country that is more skilled than Diamond. Uconn players are good but they can't do all of the things diamond does and if you can't see that then you don't know basketball. She will still be a top 2 pick next year.
 
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Teejay5952 said:
Name one player in the country that is more skilled than Diamond. Uconn players are good but they can't do all of the things diamond does and if you can't see that then you don't know basketball. She will still be a top 2 pick next year.
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It would be futile to name players more skilled than Diamond after reading your dogmatic statement about not knowing basketball if one doesn't agree with you.

I believe DD is not all that skilled. Instead, she has great abilities, attributes that she inherited from her parents. Her height strength, and coordination to do physical things easily gives her a 10 in ability. But, ability is only one item that makes a player skilled. The other components are knowledge, techniques and mindset. These components prevent her from being considered skilled in a superior way.

A good indication of her inability in knowledge and techniques given her superior physical superiority is her lack of making All American status, her unremarkable game statistics, and her teams lack of top notch success, e.g. winning.

I'll give a couple examples: Her ability to make rocket passes that her teammates are not able to handle is a failing in knowledge. She should make passes that she knows her teammates can physically handle. Her mindset seems to be it's the teammates fault for the flub. Worse, her mindset is to keep doing the same thing.

Her inability to make a higher percentage of shots given her physical abilities is a failing in knowledge and technique. She seems to rely on her natural abilities when shooting and doesn't incorporate the knowledge and techniques that would lead to a higher shooting percentage. E.g. off balance shooting.

Her knowledge of how to control her emotions in a way that helps her team is lacking. Some players just know how to win. Diamond is not in that mindset category.

Luckily for Diamond, she has the most critical aspect of being a good basketball player - her natural ability. If she could somehow develop the other aspects of basketball's requirements, she would be a truly skilled player.
 
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Besti said:
It would be futile to name players more skilled than Diamond after reading your dogmatic statement about not knowing basketball if one doesn't agree with you.

I believe DD is not all that skilled. Instead, she has great abilities, attributes that she inherited from her parents. Her height strength, and coordination to do physical things easily gives her a 10 in ability. But, ability is only one item that makes a player skilled. The other components are knowledge, techniques and mindset. These components prevent her from being considered skilled in a superior way.

A good indication of her inability in knowledge and techniques given her superior physical superiority is her lack of making All American status, her unremarkable game statistics, and her teams lack of top notch success, e.g. winning.

I'll give a couple examples: Her ability to make rocket passes that her teammates are not able to handle is a failing in knowledge. She should make passes that she knows her teammates can physically handle. Her mindset seems to be it's the teammates fault for the flub. Worse, her mindset is to keep doing the same thing.

Her inability to make a higher percentage of shots given her physical abilities is a failing in knowledge and technique. She seems to rely on her natural abilities when shooting and doesn't incorporate the knowledge and techniques that would lead to a higher shooting percentage. E.g. off balance shooting.

Her knowledge of how to control her emotions in a way that helps her team is lacking. Some players just know how to win. Diamond is not in that mindset category.

Luckily for Diamond, she has the most critical aspect of being a good basketball player - her natural ability. If she could somehow develop the other aspects of basketball's requirements, she would be a truly skilled player.
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Agree with this. DeShields is a great athlete and good basketball player--not a great player. She does not shoot the ball nearly well enough to be an outstanding player; she commits too many turnovers--partly by trying to make flashy passes that often are not needed; and she's not a great leader. She has a tendency to pout on the court. We saw a lot of pouting and weak attitude on display her first season with UT. Last year she was a lot better--more positive--though she still does not display much leadership. She improved last year and we will need more improvement this year from her if we expect to have a good team.
 
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