DC Statehood

#27
#27
Rasputin_Vol said:
How about this. DC statehood, mail in ballots, do away with electoral college and no id for voting in exchange for states being allowed to secede if they want.
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Oh, Republican states aren't going anywhere. Most of them are permanently attached to the federal pork belly teet.
 
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Weezer said:
DC was never meant to be a state. That's by design. It's further evidence of the power meant to be held by individual states as it demonstrates why the FFs didn't keep Philadelphia or New York or one of several other cities as the nation's capital. They didn't want the appearance of favoritism. It's a district, and it should remain a district. It would make more sense to allow any permanent occupants of DC to apply to either Maryland or Virginia for citizenship, thus allowing them representation. Besides, I believe the existence of DC is provided for by the Constitution, meaning we'd need an amendment for it to become a state. There's no need for that to happen.

I think there's a better argument for making U.S. territories states, IMO.
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The building they used in Philly got besieged by residents. And then they requested help from both the state and city. Both refused.

The favoritism goes both ways. For the first 100+ years it was much more confrontational between the two sides.
 
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LouderVol said:
The building they used in Philly got besieged by residents. And then they requested help from both the state and city. Both refused.

The favoritism goes both ways. For the first 100+ years it was much more confrontational between the two sides.
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Apparently, the idea of DC statehood includes cutting out a swath of land that would remain federally controlled and apart from this "new state". That being the case, if that's what they want to do, the better idea is to simply shrink DC and let the rest be reabsorbed by Maryland. There is no need for a new state. This really is just a political ploy by the left to gain more sway. It's idiotic and unnecessary when there are simpler solutions that make much more sense than statehood.

I stand by what I said before, if they want new states, they would be better off considering U.S. territories, which have a more legitimate argument IMO, than DC.
 
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MontyPython said:
I'd like to hear pros/cons from both sides. This thread is dominated by antis.
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The only pros are Dems get two Senators and more reps in the House. None of that is needed when we can just allow an existing state(Maryland) to reabsorb any land not set aside for the use of federal business. People still get their representation in a fair manner without violating the Constitution(which provides for the existence of DC). It's easier to simply shrink DC if representation is the overall concern.
 
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We should just move it to Puerto Rico or Guam. Fly Congress in once a year for a 12 week session. They live in dormitories and eat in a cafeteria that are on the same campus as the main legislative buildings. 2 staffers per person. No limos. No lobbyists. No families.

Special and emergency sessions outside of the 12-week session are held via Skype (or whatever the new thing is).
 
#38
#38
Sigh...how much more bull crap are the Dems going to throw around to create distractions between now and November. It’s really hit petulant child argument status.🤦‍♀️
 
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DynaLo said:
Sigh...how much more bull crap are the Dems going to throw around to create distractions between now and November. It’s really hit petulant child argument status.🤦‍♀️
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If it ain't broke then don't fix it. I think they hope to make it to November before the US fully wakes up with what is going on. If they can make it. They plan to do so much damage that is is almost irreparable. Only the election of Trump and winning another Senate seat or two will stop them because Romney is useless.
 
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Weezer said:
Apparently, the idea of DC statehood includes cutting out a swath of land that would remain federally controlled and apart from this "new state". That being the case, if that's what they want to do, the better idea is to simply shrink DC and let the rest be reabsorbed by Maryland. There is no need for a new state. This really is just a political ploy by the left to gain more sway. It's idiotic and unnecessary when there are simpler solutions that make much more sense than statehood.

I stand by what I said before, if they want new states, they would be better off considering U.S. territories, which have a more legitimate argument IMO, than DC.
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Which is exactly what was done with the Virginia portion of DC years ago. Yes it’s just a Senate seat power grab.
 
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