DEA looking for people fluent in Ebonics

#29
#29
Well here's my opinion.... I am African American but I talk with a little twang because I am from a very small rual town. Sometimes I don't say words properly because that's the way they are spoken where I'm from. I don't spell words correctly because.... Hell I just can't spell lol. Do this make me look or sound uneducated? No.

Like one day my boss and I were having a conversation and I said "man I want a dime piece to take out" he asked me what the hell
a dime piece was I said a pretty woman. That word comes from the hip hop culture I thought everybody knew that!! So we have another guy that works with us who happens to be white that grew up in the African American community so I asked him what a dime piece was and he responded a pretty woman.

I think that African American students should learn to speak proper English. But all kids Now a days text slang and cut off words. I wonder if the black students would get mad at a black teacher for tring to teach them proper English? I don't know.
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#30
#30
huge difference between bsing with your boss and trying to write a college enterance essay or writing your resume or writing a report for your boss or talking to clients. the problem coach is that a lot of people don't know they are using inproper english. i use slang all the time, but not when proper english is needed. the number of words a white middle upper class 6th grader on average knows is triple what a lower class black 6th grader. it's a huge problem.
 
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Coach Grizz said:
Well here's my opinion.... I am African American but I talk with a little twang because I am from a very small rual town. Sometimes I don't say words properly because that's the way they are spoken where I'm from. I don't spell words correctly because.... Hell I just can't spell lol. Do this make me look or sound uneducated? No.

Like one day my boss and I were having a conversation and I said "man I want a dime piece to take out" he asked me what the hell
a dime piece was I said a pretty woman. That word comes from the hip hop culture I thought everybody knew that!! So we have another guy that works with us who happens to be white that grew up in the African American community so I asked him what a dime piece was and he responded a pretty woman.

I think that African American students should learn to speak proper English. But all kids Now a days text slang and cut off words. I wonder if the black students would get mad at a black teacher for tring to teach them proper English? I don't know.
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I knew a black teacher who taught a class that was about half black and half white or hispanic. The kids and to some small extent parents still seemed to resent being told to use/write "correct" English. They didn't accuse her of being a racist or uncle Tom or anything, though. I think some just think it is a slam on their culture? Which I don't think it is, any more than telling someone from a rural white community that they can't type "ain't" in any kind of serious document.
 
#32
#32
ITT I learned what a "dime piece" is. When I first read the sentence I assumed you were telling your boss you would like some pot.
 
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droski said:
huge difference between bsing with your boss and trying to write a college enterance essay or writing your resume or writing a report for your boss or talking to clients. the problem coach is that a lot of people don't know they are using inproper english. i use slang all the time, but not when proper english is needed. the number of words a white middle upper class 6th grader on average knows is triple what a lower class black 6th grader. it's a huge problem.
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I totally understand what your saying. I use

slang too, but I also do not use it when I
shouldn't. That is a sad statistic... Did I spell that right? Lol
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IPorange said:
I knew a black teacher who taught a class that was about half black and half white or hispanic. The kids and to some small extent parents still seemed to resent being told to use/write "correct" English. They didn't accuse her of being a racist or uncle Tom or anything, though. I think some just think it is a slam on their culture? Which I don't think it is, any more than telling someone from a rural white community that they can't type "ain't" in any kind of serious document.
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But I'm gonna "keep it real" with y'all for a minute.... In the African American community
if your black and you use proper English you will be called a uncle Tom. I know because I have been called this all my life.
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Coach Grizz said:
But I'm gonna "keep it real" with y'all for a minute.... In the African American community
if your black and you use proper English you will be called a uncle Tom. I know because I have been called this all my life.
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I understand this, but it also means you're much more likely to be successful. Whenever I see something like this I'm reminded of a skit on the Chappelle Show - "When keeping it real goes wrong".
 
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Coach Grizz said:
But I'm gonna "keep it real" with y'all for a minute.... In the African American community
if your black and you use proper English you will be called a uncle Tom. I know because I have been called this all my life.
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That's ridiculous. (that this actually happens)
 
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#37
Coach Grizz said:
But I'm gonna "keep it real" with y'all for a minute.... In the African American community
if your black and you use proper English you will be called a uncle Tom. I know because I have been called this all my life.
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Crazy. I've seen that with college freshman from DC. They talk one way to their white friends, and another when they are around their friends who are black. Weird.
 
#39
#39
I taught high school English for 6 years in small rural communities around College Station. I had students from all races. We encouraged our students to write proper English.

I understand the history of how ebonics began, but whats difficult to understand for some people is that it is an evolving language that changes many times over. Its not the same year to year, or even month to month. What was said back in the late 90's might mean something completely new today. Whats worse is, the connotation of its meaning can change to.

While I dont really think this should be on the forefront of the DEA's agenda, I can understand the need for a translator. The problem is, they'll be replacing them as often as the language itself changes.

And to address how this came about; you can thank pop culture and media exposure of its evolution over the past 3 decades.

Just keepin it one hunded
 
#40
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BeecherVol said:
Posers?:)
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Caught between two cultures with two different expectations, I guess. I just wish they would be fine to be "themselves," whichever way that went. Or maybe they are and they just have dual ways of communicating. I don't know.
 
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IPorange said:
Caught between two cultures with two different expectations, I guess. I just wish they would be fine to be "themselves," whichever way that went. Or maybe they are and they just have dual ways of communicating. I don't know.
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Prolly this. More a sense of fitting into both, and not being excluded.
 
#42
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IPorange said:
Caught between two cultures with two different expectations, I guess. I just wish they would be fine to be "themselves," whichever way that went. Or maybe they are and they just have dual ways of communicating. I don't know.
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The driving force is acceptance from your peers. Around one group of people they would talk one way, around another group of people they will talk another. This is even true for kids in respect to their parents. I had one friend (who happened to be black) who's parents were very strict and college educated. In front of them he would speak VERY proper English, when around people his age he would talk a completely different way. When I look back I guess I was the same way to a lesser extent.

The "slang" language that is spoken today is very different from what I remember, in some cases it takes me a while to follow some conversations.
 
#43
#43
Texting is doing more damage to the English language than ebonics.
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