Death of privacy in Chattanooga

[scooty_vol]

Chattanooga Agrees To Adopt World Economic Forum’s Smart City Technology Roadmap - Tennessee Conservative

For some reason the Chattooga gov is going to become the WEF guinea pig. We'll see how long takes for their privacy to disappear.

 

[EasternVol]

Chattanooga Agrees To Adopt World Economic Forum’s Smart City Technology Roadmap - Tennessee Conservative

For some reason the Chattooga gov is going to become the WEF guinea pig. We'll see how long takes for their privacy to disappear.

What's the problem?

 

[LouderVol]

What's the problem?

I saw a couple things:

"Chattanooga has been fairly self-sufficient with its technology services but the increased technology requirements that come with Smart City implementation may result in more outsourcing.

With the outsourcing of technology services to private vendors, Williams states that the vendors can play a quasi-government function with the vendors not being held to the same standards of accountability as city government would be. "

"One of the first concerns regards the lack of community input involved when making the decision to implement new technologies. Williams states that ongoing engagement with the community and dialogue regarding data collection should be involved to explain how it might contribute to the collective good and the trade-offs involved. "

doesn't sound like there has been any community involvement, and the ever present threat of government scope creep.

 

[hog88]

What's the problem?

I'd like to see the strings. If the city is getting a grant for this you know that there are some serious strings attached.

 

[scooty_vol]

I'd like to see the strings. If the city is getting a grant for this you know that there are some serious strings attached.

When it comes to globalists or the fed gov there are chains attached.

 

[AM64]

I saw a couple things:

"Chattanooga has been fairly self-sufficient with its technology services but the increased technology requirements that come with Smart City implementation may result in more outsourcing.

With the outsourcing of technology services to private vendors, Williams states that the vendors can play a quasi-government function with the vendors not being held to the same standards of accountability as city government would be. "

"One of the first concerns regards the lack of community input involved when making the decision to implement new technologies. Williams states that ongoing engagement with the community and dialogue regarding data collection should be involved to explain how it might contribute to the collective good and the trade-offs involved. "

doesn't sound like there has been any community involvement, and the ever present threat of government scope creep.

It's been creeping in for some time now. Photo speeding and red light cameras sold and operated by vendors - with plenty of the proceeds going to the vendors. Quasi-military operators like Blackwater exist at the federal level.

 

[volfanhill]

It's been creeping in for some time now. Photo speeding and red light cameras sold and operated by vendors - with plenty of the proceeds going to the vendors. Quasi-military operators like Blackwater exist at the federal level.

Most cities are backing off the camera crap

 

[allvol123]

It's been creeping in for some time now. Photo speeding and red light cameras sold and operated by vendors - with plenty of the proceeds going to the vendors. Quasi-military operators like Blackwater exist at the federal level.

Such a scam. Don’t pay the tickets, nothing happens.

 

[AM64]

Most cities are backing off the camera crap

Seems like photo radar has largely gone away around here, but the red light cameras are still going. There's a box supposedly with a camera and warning signs on Pinewood, but I'm not convinced there's anything still in there.

 

[85SugarVol]

Such a scam. Don’t pay the tickets, nothing happens.

Can they report you to the credit bureaus?

 

[allvol123]

Can they report you to the credit bureaus?

I guess. I think I got some letter from an attorney’s office in Texas saying something like that. Not going to affect me.

 

[Orangeburst]

Most cities are backing off the camera crap

Fun fact...in TN you dont have to pay a camera fine.

 

[volgr]

Good. Everytime I go through Chatty it seems like traffic is a nightmare.

 

[AM64]

Good. Everytime I go through Chatty it seems like traffic is a nightmare.

It is a nightmare. A bunch of streets not already blocked by the river, ridges, or railroads were cutoff by the interstates. That forced a lot of unnecessary local traffic onto the interstates - which should have gone around and not through Chattanooga in the first place. This place has been a zoo as far as traffic goes for decades, and it definitely isn't getting better.

 

[EasternVol]

It is a nightmare. A bunch of streets not already blocked by the river, ridges, or railroads were cutoff by the interstates. That forced a lot of unnecessary local traffic onto the interstates - which should have gone around and not through Chattanooga in the first place. This place has been a zoo as far as traffic goes for decades, and it definitely isn't getting better.

Stating the obvious but Tennessee's highway planning is poor.

 

[davethevol]

Fun fact...in TN you dont have to pay a camera fine.

Thanks to Andy Holt for getting that done. Our head of TBI, David Rausch, was getting kickbacks from the red light companies to be help them get their products in the area back when he was the head of KPD.

 

[Godfatha]

Stating the obvious but Tennessee's highway planning is poor.

And usually about 10-20 years too late. I'll never see a Knoxville bypass in my lifetime but it's needed one for 20 years.

 

[LouderVol]

And usually about 10-20 years too late. I'll never see a Knoxville bypass in my lifetime but it's needed one for 20 years.

besides 640?

Cities typically grow to fill in whatever bypass you make.

Rivers and mountains also make it logistically very difficult.

my thinking would be to reduce the number of on/off ramps to discourage local traffic using it. its hard to be high speed when you have consistent on/off traffic that interrupts the flow.

 

[ButchPlz]

besides 640?

Cities typically grow to fill in whatever bypass you make.

Rivers and mountains also make it logistically very difficult.

my thinking would be to reduce the number of on/off ramps to discourage local traffic using it. its hard to be high speed when you have consistent on/off traffic that interrupts the flow.

Right outside my apartment here in the DC area the highway is split into "local" and express (or something). You pick the non-local set of lanes, you're basically walled off from exits for 15 miles.

 

[LouderVol]

Right outside my apartment here in the DC area the highway is split into "local" and express (or something). You pick the non-local set of lanes, you're basically walled off from exits for 15 miles.

thats how it should be.

285 in here in Atlanta should have 6 exits/entrances. Once each time another interstate crosses it.

 

[AM64]

Right outside my apartment here in the DC area the highway is split into "local" and express (or something). You pick the non-local set of lanes, you're basically walled off from exits for 15 miles.

St Louis did something like that a long time ago. It's a good idea, but I haven't seen it many places. The new trend seems to be blocking off lanes so the state can charge you to use them ... under the guise that somehow letting people travel down pay to drive lanes and then cross traffic to get to an exit makes it all better.

 

[Orangeburst]

St Louis did something like that a long time ago. It's a good idea, but I haven't seen it many places. The new trend seems to be blocking off lanes so the state can charge you to use them ... under the guise that somehow letting people travel down pay to drive lanes and then cross traffic to get to an exit makes it all better.

\When in Houston..I hit the Tollways a lot for work..Several EZ Pass tolls per day. Company paid for but cannot imagine the monthly costs but easily hundreds of dollars. Multiply that by about a dozen vehicles on the road everyday.

 

[ButchPlz]

St Louis did something like that a long time ago. It's a good idea, but I haven't seen it many places. The new trend seems to be blocking off lanes so the state can charge you to use them ... under the guise that somehow letting people travel down pay to drive lanes and then cross traffic to get to an exit makes it all better.

Plenty of those in the area, too.

 

[Orangeburst]

thats how it should be.

285 in here in Atlanta should have 6 exits/entrances. Once each time another interstate crosses it.

Thankful I never have to hit that Pleasant Hill exit ever again.

 

[AM64]

Right outside my apartment here in the DC area the highway is split into "local" and express (or something). You pick the non-local set of lanes, you're basically walled off from exits for 15 miles.

I sure don't envy your commute. My wife was stationed at the Navy Annex in Arlington several years ago - on the hill adjacent to the cemetery where the AF Memorial is now. I was good getting into town on I-66 and with driving in Arlington in general, but I was really frustrated about how to get back on I-66 when leaving town. One day while filling up at the Navy Exchange gas station across from the Annex, I asked a couple of Pentagon cops the secret about getting on I-66. They told me to take a couple of rights and then go around the perimeter of the Pentagon parking lot, turn and go through an underpass, and there would be an on ramp. Worked like a charm - I guess now smartphones have that kind of thing covered.