Dems vs. Repub

#26
#26
Because I go to UT football games and I'm not there to see you. I know people who go to UT football games and they're not there to see you. The 106,000 in attendance don't scream BigPapaVol.... They scream Rocky Top... Eric Berry.. etc.
Refuted yet?
 
#28
#28
thekicker33 said:
Because I go to UT football games and I'm not there to see you. I know people who go to UT football games and they're not there to see you. The 106,000 in attendance don't scream BigPapaVol.... They scream Rocky Top... Eric Berry.. etc.
Refuted yet?
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not in the least. I don't care what they scream, they come when I do. They are dying to see me.
 
#29
#29
Yes, I realize that... but the economy under a democratic president is likely to be stronger than under a Republican presdient
 
#30
#30
BigPapaVol said:
who's faulting? Bush happened to be in office during the worst liquidity crisis (prior to this most recent housing crash) this side of the Great Depression. LTCM killed the credit markets and all liquidity was removed from the markets, killing all businesses that live by short term credit. That creamed the economy, regardless who was in office.

Bush 2 had to deal with the aftermath of 9/11 and watched the credit default swap kill the conduit markets in real estate. That shock removed all liquidity from the market and here we are. The presidents in office at those times had little or nothing to do with employment levels.

Hell, Obama stole a trillion dollars to impact employment and has sat helplessly by as the number has soared. Wonder why?
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Ever think these crisis were caused by Raegan and his plans to ignore the poor in this country
 
#31
#31
thekicker33 said:
Really????? How do I know it worked.... because unemployment went down!!!
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good. i'm glad you've decided obama has been the worst president in modern american history since unemployment is now at the highest level since the great depression.
 
#33
#33
BigPapaVol said:
not in the least. I don't care what they scream, they come when I do. They are dying to see me.
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WOW, just wow. Thanks is all I have to say.. At least my arguement is based on numbers... albeit on just unemployment... Yours is just flat out stupid and based on nothing
 
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thekicker33 said:
Ever think these crisis were caused by Raegan and his plans to ignore the poor in this country
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yes the russian debt market collapsing (which caused LTCM to fail) surely was because reagan ignored the poor people in the united states.
 
#37
#37
droski said:
good. i'm glad you've decided obama has been the worst president in modern american history since unemployment is now at the highest level since the great depression.
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Never said that......... You can't judge that after one year... I never did that in my analysis... I based on the end of terms... So when Obama is done in office than and unemployment is still where it is, than yes he'll go down alongside Bush as one of the worse presidents in U.S. history
 
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#38
thekicker33 said:
WOW, just wow. Thanks is all I have to say.. At least my arguement is based on numbers... albeit on just unemployment... Yours is just flat out stupid and based on nothing
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Can you refute that people are there when I show up? How is it stupid. It's just empirical data being shown to happen at the same time, every time, hence one must cause the other.
 
#39
#39
thekicker33 said:
Yes, I realize that... but the economy under a democratic president is likely to be stronger than under a Republican presdient
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If you go back and look at the data I think you will find that when the executive and legislative branches are at odds with one another we typically do well fiscally. Regardless of which party controls what.

In terms of GDP growth it is mostly cyclical, and there is generally little impact by the guy sitting in the oval office. A "bad" president can look good with a strong economy and a "good" president can look bad in a weak economy.
 
#41
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rjd970 said:
If you go back and look at the data I think you will find that when the executive and legislative branches are at odds with one another we typically do well fiscally. Regardless of which party controls what.

In terms of GDP growth it is mostly cyclical, and there is generally little impact by the guy sitting in the oval office. A "bad" president can look good with a strong economy and a "good" president can look bad in a weak economy.
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Hold up a minute. You mean the administration doesn't have 100% control of the employment level in America? That's crazy talk.
 
#43
#43
It doesn't matter much if unemployment goes down if everyone is making minimum wage.

If people that made 100k give up and take a much lower playing job, do they count against unemployment?
 
#44
#44
thekicker33 said:
Never said that......... You can't judge that after one year... I never did that in my analysis... I based on the end of terms... So when Obama is done in office than and unemployment is still where it is, than yes he'll go down alongside Bush as one of the worse presidents in U.S. history
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i'm confused. the unemployment rate is up so clearly he is a bad president. apparently if i assasinate obama today we will certainly know he is a bad president.
 
#46
#46
BigPapaVol said:
Can you refute that people are there when I show up? How is it stupid. It's just empirical data being shown to happen at the same time, every time, hence one must cause the other.
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Because I have a brain... I don't know you, maybe you're god or something and have been around forever, but UT football fans were showing up to Neyland Stadium long before you were born... Hence the reason among many others I know they're not there to see you.
 
#47
#47
rjd970 said:
If you go back and look at the data I think you will find that when the executive and legislative branches are at odds with one another we typically do well fiscally. Regardless of which party controls what.

In terms of GDP growth it is mostly cyclical, and there is generally little impact by the guy sitting in the oval office. A "bad" president can look good with a strong economy and a "good" president can look bad in a weak economy.
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Finally something with substance... Thank you sir!
 
#48
#48
thekicker33 said:
Because I have a brain... I don't know you, maybe you're god or something and have been around forever, but UT football fans were showing up to Neyland Stadium long before you were born... Hence the reason among many others I know they're not there to see you.
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again, I have overwhelming evidence in my favor and it proves that when I'm there, the stadium is packed. I know that at some games when I choose not to attend, there are empties. What happened before is immaterial.
 
#49
#49
droski said:
i'm confused. the unemployment rate is up so clearly he is a bad president. apparently if i assasinate obama today we will certainly know he is a bad president.
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Way to take it to extremes. I wouldn't judge any president based on one year. That's just crazy
 
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