Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

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BernardKingGOAT said:
Pelosi was elected to her position. That's on her idiot constituents. Surely you see the difference

Excuse me, I forget where I am at, where details and nuance have no place
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Is Faucci??? Or any of the other I mentioned...so it only a conflict of interest when??? So pelosi is allowed because she was elected by people like you?? Seem right in par with your typical response ..throw in a few emojis and have a good day
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Is Faucci??? Or any of the other I mentioned...so it only a conflict of interest when??? So pelosi is allowed because she was elected by people like you?? Seem right in par with your typical response ..throw in a few emojis and have a good day
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Who appointed Fauci to oversee the COVID response?
 
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rekinhavoc said:
justthenews.com

Defense Department fails seventh consecutive audit but says on path to pass by 2028

A breakdown of the audit found that 15 of the 28 standalone financial audits received a failing grade, while nine of them passed. One received an "acceptable" or "qualified" opinion, while the other three remain pending.
justthenews.com justthenews.com

Yes let's start here.
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I just remember the stuff that they reported on in the early 90's and they wrote into the script for "Independence Day" $10,000 for a hammer $20,000 for a toilet seat.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
I just remember the stuff that they reported on in the early 90's and they wrote into the script for "Independence Day" $10,000 for a hammer $20,000 for a toilet seat.
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Obviously, a lot has to do with how one does the accounting, i.e.:

1) Buy hammer for $10,000 from Home Depot; or,

2) Calculate cost of making a hammer by the US gov't and include in that some pro rata share for the cost of materials, cost of design, cost of transport, and some 20 other myriad expenses along the way.

The goal of such citations is to misleadingly take the number generated by the second approach and make it sound like it is the equivalent of the firs,t i.e. that we actually paid $10,000 for a hammer.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Is Faucci??? Or any of the other I mentioned...so it only a conflict of interest when??? So pelosi is allowed because she was elected by people like you?? Seem right in par with your typical response ..throw in a few emojis and have a good day
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whodeycin85 said:
Trump, I guess..but he been head of NIH appointed by Reagan.whats your point. It's still a conflict
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I asked a specific question that you can't answer.

The sidebar was concerning who appointed Fauci to his role at overseeing the COVID response for our government.

Expecting you to answer intelligently and with detail is a pipe dream
 
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Grand Vol said:
That's the point I was trying to make. Honest bidding is a thing of the past except for rare occasions (like SpaceX for example). But I feel even they are making a lot more profit than they let on even if it's way under the competition.
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I don’t know enough of how the SpaceX contract is setup to really comment.

But in general the profit isn’t as much as you would think, and if they run over cost (in cost plus, but especially in fixed price) it gets even less. The fee is the profit, generally.

If a cost plus contract is $1M at cost with 10% fee, the contractor is only making $100K, the total price is $1.1M, but the $1M is only covering the contractor cost. If the contractor comes in at $2M cost, then they are only making 5% unless they get added fee on the extra cost.

Trust me, the contractors want to come in on cost and at schedule. Coming in under/over cost and early/late schedule is bad for both parties. Above all else, Wall Street values predictability with these contracts and the ability of the contractor to hit their targets (no pun intended). On the government side they don’t want to leave money on the table or go over.

I still contend this is largely the fault of the government, they don’t do a true evaluation of some of these contracts and it creates a situation where contractors have to underbid and then get labeled dirty because they are playing the game the government has setup.

The whole thing needs an overhaul.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Wasted, you mean like on veterans health care? That's one item on the chopping block
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Seems like a good place to start if we truly care about veterans. Start with accountability on fiscal spending to better serve the veterans. VA Hospitals and Outpatient services would benefit by being better ran, this has been an ongoing issue.

www.military.com

VA Lost More than $3.5 Billion in Misplaced Spending in Fiscal 2022

The amount is down from the previous two years but is still nearly quadruple the amount in fiscal 2019.
www.military.com www.military.com
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
I just remember the stuff that they reported on in the early 90's and they wrote into the script for "Independence Day" $10,000 for a hammer $20,000 for a toilet seat.
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Not taking away from the point because it is valid, but a $10,000 hammer is kind of misleading. The hammer only costs $10, the other $9,990 is for the design, labor, and testing requirements needed. You don’t want to get to outer space or all the way to the moon and have your hammer not work.

Kind of a silly example, but provides some explanation at what is going on. I would agree there is a lot of bloat in that $9,990 that isn’t really needed though.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
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That's your example?

Wow
BernardKingGOAT said:
Pelosi was elected to her position. That's on her idiot constituents. Surely you see the difference

Excuse me, I forget where I am at, where details and nuance have no place
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Thats a perfect example of "conflict of interest." She knew what she was doing, and your trying to blamethe people who voted for her. Just how dumb do you have to be to try and make that case. The bit@# got rich on insider trading.
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Elected

I asked a specific question that you can't answer.

The sidebar was concerning who appointed Fauci to his role at overseeing the COVID response for our government.

Expecting you to answer intelligently and with detail is a pipe dream
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And I stated Trump..so only are emojis your best response..noted
 
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whodeycin85 said:
And I stated Trump..so only are emojis your best response..noted
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That's what I would do if we were speaking in person. It's cool. You made a dumb comparison with your first example, the usual unnuanced response from you.

You should be proud. The dumbest people in this forum like your posts so yo do have that 😉
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
That's what I would do if we were speaking in person. It's cool. You made a dumb comparison with your first example, the usual unnuanced response from you.

You should be proud. The dumbest people in this forum like your posts so yo do have that 😉
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That's the best you got .sad...but have a good evening
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
F Tim Irwin. We couldn't hardly make a bowl game when he played
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BernardKingGOAT said:
That's what I would do if we were speaking in person. It's cool. You made a dumb comparison with your first example, the usual unnuanced response from you.

You should be proud. The dumbest people in this forum like your posts so yo do have that 😉
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😂



Tim Irwin is a good man and does a lot for the Boy and Girls Clubs of Tennessee. Why do not like good people? Since you're throwing the word around, I thought what you said about Irwin was pretty dumb
 
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rjd970 said:
Not taking away from the point because it is valid, but a $10,000 hammer is kind of misleading. The hammer only costs $10, the other $9,990 is for the design, labor, and testing requirements needed. You don’t want to get to outer space or all the way to the moon and have your hammer not work.

Kind of a silly example, but provides some explanation at what is going on. I would agree there is a lot of bloat in that $9,990 that isn’t really needed though.
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I had a buddy that worked in procurement for military aircraft. He said the $20k toilet seat was the cost for a mfr to go back and make a seat for an out of production aircraft to the original specs. Compared to the cost to take a new $10 seat through the certification process, he thought it was a bargain!
 
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lawgator1 said:
It's another in a long line of shams. Musk and Vivek "finish" their "review" and make "recommendations" to a GOP controlled Congress just in time for the mid terms. All they'll come up with is the stuff already out there, add in some anti-DEI crap, and nothing changes except we go up another meter on the MAGA outrage machine.
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Bla,bla,bla,bla.............
 
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TN-POSSUM said:
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Tim Irwin is a good man and does a lot for the Boy and Girls Clubs of Tennessee. Why do not like good people? Kind of dumb on your part, IMO.
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I do like good people. Never said anything to the contrary. I know he's a "good" person, but ripping the team was uncalled for, IMO
 
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