Derek Mason: "We will win championships"

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Yeah...um...good luck with that.


Change might be in the air at Vanderbilt, from a new head coach to a new coaching staff to a new 3-4 defensive scheme to several new faces in key roles, but there’s one thing everyone associated with the program insists won’t change.

And that’s winning games.

Derek Mason is entering his first spring as Vanderbilt’s head coach. The Commodores, coming off their best two-year stretch in school history, start practice Tuesday afternoon, and if anything, they’re hungrier than ever.

“I’ve loved every interaction I’ve had with Coach Mason and the great staff that he’s brought in,” sophomore quarterback Patton Robinette said. “He’s a very confident guy, and that’s spreading to us.

“I know everybody else is worrying about the previous staff leaving and saying we’re going to have a drop-off. I feel like we’re going to be that much better next year. I really do, especially with the guys [Mason] has brought in and the changes he’s made so far.”

The translation: Vanderbilt’s players appreciate what James Franklin did in steering the program to nine-win seasons in back-to-back years, but they’re not wallowing in the fact he’s gone.

For that matter, they knew it was probably inevitable he would bolt at some point.

“We watch TV and read the Internet,” senior center Joe Townsend said. “It was talked about in the locker room, but we didn’t let it distract us from what needed to be done. He told us to control what we could control, going to class and playing football. We knew it was very possible that he would go somewhere else.

“So, when it happened, we weren’t surprised.”

Townsend said a standard of winning (and knowing how to win) has been set at Vanderbilt, and the players reminded each other of that even before Mason was announced as head coach.

“We have guys who know how to work hard and are selfless and know how to win,” Townsend said. “Coach Franklin taught us how to win, and that’s not going to change. We talked about it as a team when the whole coaching search was going on, that no matter who we get or who comes in here, one thing that will never change is us winning because we know how to win.

“The only people who can control that is us. No coach can control if we win or not. They supplement it and help us grow as players. But when it comes to winning, we’re the ones on the field who get it done.”

Mason is obviously no stranger to winning, either. Stanford won 11 or more games each of his three seasons as defensive coordinator in Palo Alto.

There was also a time when the idea of Stanford winning Pac-12 championships seemed far-fetched, sort of like Vanderbilt winning nine games in back-to-back seasons and sweeping Florida, Georgia and Tennessee.

The expectations at Vanderbilt have reached a whole new stratosphere, and for those who insist the Commodores reached their ceiling under Franklin, Mason offers a confident shrug.

“The one thing I’ve learned over time is that you can’t get mired in people’s expectations,” Mason said. “You have to tear it down and build it up every year. So with that being said, 2013 has no effect on 2014. What we have to do is put our cornerstones in place.

“If you go back and look at what we’ve done defensively and offensively, it comes back to you being able to play a 60-minute ballgame, whether that’s 2013 or 2014. It’s about taking teams into the fourth quarter and winning ballgames. There’s no expiration date on that. That’s a day-to-day, week-to-week process.”

And it’s a process that started the day Mason was introduced in January.

“This program, whether anybody believes it, is going to win championships,” Mason said. “We’re already on the clock. This spring is important for laying that foundation, and then we’re going to go one fall practice at a time, one week at a time, and make our march toward the SEC East title.”
Vanderbilt Commodores coach Derek Mason: We will win championships - ESPN
 
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good luck changing to a 3-4.....doubt that ends very well for them this season. esp with such a young secondary and upperclassmen DEs now standing up as OLB

just seems like alot of people are unaware of all these news changes and the effects they could have this year. brand new staff, most inexperienced secondary in the league, worst run game in the league, and no matthews/krause to bail you out. couple all that with QB questions, a new staff and new defensive scheme that has proven to bring a team down in its first year. you have guys recruited for a 4-3 and have played their whole careers in a 4-3 to move them now in their jr/sr years. we saw that with sal and so did UGA.
 
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Says the coach with the least offers out to 2015 recruits in the league... Yeah good luck guy
 
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Stanford may be the model, but this isn't the Pac12. I'm not saying that football in the SEC is necessarily better, but that football is a much bigger deal. Stanford's had some amazing seasons, no doubt. But they still haven't quite gotten over the hump. The only way Vandy wins any football championship is if the other 13 teams in the conference are on probation at the same time.
 
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What's he supposed to say, "I hope we're fair to average!" ?

Our coaches use coach speak and its a free beer party in here, someone else does and it "hardy har har Cletus" time.
 
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What's he supposed to say, "I hope we're fair to average!" ?

Our coaches use coach speak and its a free beer party in here, someone else does and it "hardy har har Cletus" time.

That same coach speak has been brought up a multitude of times every month.

Don't know why you think that went unnoticed.
 
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Stanford may be the model, but this isn't the Pac12. I'm not saying that football in the SEC is necessarily better, but that football is a much bigger deal. Stanford's had some amazing seasons, no doubt. But they still haven't quite gotten over the hump. The only way Vandy wins any football championship is if the other 13 teams in the conference are on probation at the same time.


Wait...wait


They've won that conference's last 2 conference championships, appeared in that conference's championship game the last 3 years, have won 11 or more games the last 4 seasons, appeared in 4 BCS bowls the last 4 seasons, and have finished between 4 and 10 in the rankings the last 4 years.

How have that not getting over the hump, considering this school's history included not winning a conference championship since the 90s, not seeing more than 8 wins since the early 90s, and hadn't been to back to back bowl games since the mid-90s (for 3 or more bowl games in a row, the last time was in the 30s)?


(And those were a few spotty good years in the 90s; the 70s and 80s were a whole lot of nothing at all)


(Note: I'm not supporting any of Mason's statements by any means.)


Or by "hump" do you meant winning a national championship recently? Because that which would mean almost all the FBS schools haven't.
 
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What do you want your head coach to say? "I want to win 8-9 games a year and finish mid pack in my conference?


You want CBJ to say the exact same thing and would(or have already) applauded him for such
 
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What do you want your head coach to say? "I want to win 8-9 games a year and finish mid pack in my conference?


You want CBJ to say the exact same thing and would(or have already) applauded him for such

A ton of UT fans have done the complete opposite.
 
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Wait...wait


They've won that conference's last 2 conference championships, appeared in that conference's championship game the last 3 years, have won 11 or more games the last 4 seasons, appeared in 4 BCS bowls the last 4 seasons, and have finished between 4 and 10 in the rankings the last 4 years.

How have that not getting over the hump, considering this school's history included not winning a conference championship since the 90s, not seeing more than 8 wins since the early 90s, and hadn't been to back to back bowl games since the mid-90s (for 3 or more bowl games in a row, the last time was in the 30s)?


(And those were a few spotty good years in the 90s; the 70s and 80s were a whole lot of nothing at all)


(Note: I'm not supporting any of Mason's statements by any means.)


Or by "hump" do you meant winning a national championship recently? Because that which would mean almost all the FBS schools haven't.

I'm referring to getting to the national championship game. While en route to winning their conference, they would inexplicably drop a game or two that kept them out of the BCSNCG.

Edit: And that doesn't include nearly every FBS team, because not every FBS team is seriously mentioned as preseason championship-caliber.

Edit2: 2013- Ls to Utah and USC
2012- Ls to Washington and ND
2010 and 2011- Ls to Oregon (understandable)

Edit3: And guess who was the DC of the 2012 and 2014 teams....?
 
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I'm referring to getting to the national championship game. While en route to winning their conference, they would inexplicably drop a game or two that kept them out of the BCSNCG.

I'd (personally) argue more that they've gotten over the hump, but they haven't "reached the top of the mountain."


I mean look at their history...there's certainly been quite a hump crossed: Stanford Cardinal football - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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I'd (personally) argue more that they've gotten over the hump, but they haven't "reached the top of the mountain."


I mean look at their history...there's certainly been quite a hump crossed: Stanford Cardinal football - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I see your point, but Stanford's program also has history. Vandy's doesn't.

Stanford has 14 conference titles, 2 claimed national championships, and 1 Heisman.

Vandy has 0 SEC titles, 0 claimed national championships, and 0 Heismans.

My point is that Stanford's "been there," even though it had been awhile. Whereas, Vandy's never even sniffed "there" before.
 
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I see your point, but Stanford's program also has history. Vandy's doesn't.

Stanford has 14 conference titles, 2 claimed national championships, and 1 Heisman.

Vandy has 0 SEC titles, 0 claimed national championships, and 0 Heismans.

My point is that Stanford's "been there," even though it had been awhile. Whereas, Vandy's never even sniffed "there" before.

Ok, that I can understand a bit more and can agree with that part, relevant to Vanderbilt.
 
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What do you want your head coach to say? "I want to win 8-9 games a year and finish mid pack in my conference?


You want CBJ to say the exact same thing and would(or have already) applauded him for such

(Not sure if this was directed at me, specifically, since I started the thread.)

Personally I don't, even when Jones does or would say it.

I'm one of those people that thinks a coach shouldn't be talking about championships for that/the upcoming year unless they (the team) are either felt to be in contention or were in/close to contention the last season...and I just don't feel they're that close.

But it is coach-speak. Just (to myself) strange for the university source.
 
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(Not sure if this was directed at me, specifically, since I started the thread.)

Personally I don't, even when Jones does or would say it.

I'm one of those people that thinks a coach shouldn't be talking about championships for that/the upcoming year unless they're either felt to be in contention or were in/close to contention the last season...and I just don't feel they're that close.

But it is coach-speak. Just (to myself) strange for the university source.

Well, Butch's goal last year and this year was to get to a bowl game. That's the equivalent to saying 6 wins...it just sounds better than to say, "I just want to get to 6 wins."
 
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I like the argument that Vandy won't regress because there's a "standard of winning" now.

Like two 8 win regular seasons means your program is immune to backsliding.
 
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When I first read the quote "We will win championships here" my first thought was Vanderbilt is leaving the SEC and joining the SunBelt or Conference USA.
 
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CDM wont win shi te at Vanderbilt! He'll probably be looking for another job in 3-4 years.
 

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