DeShields has now been part of two

#27
#27
Jax_Vol said:
Would someone please start a poll. If we can only get rid of one, would it be Diamond or Holly? I want to get rid of both. But, only picking one would be interesting to see poll results.

After much consideration, if I can only get rid of one of them.....I vote to move Diamond out. Holly can stay.
Click to expand...

Disagree.

DD is one player. She can only affect the team as much as the coach allows. If she is hurting the team, the coach has the ultimate recourse...riding the pine. The rest of the team can follow the coach's directives.

On the other hand, the coach affects everyone...and not just the current players. As 2016 recruiting results demonstrate, the coach is the one person in a position to impact the team for years to come. You think recruits turned down UT because of Diamond DeShields? Especially when she hadn't played a single game at UT yet?

Diamond isn't paid to run the team. Holly is. If CHW can't handle Diamond, she doesn't need to be coaching. Either play her or sit her.

Consider the possibilities and upside/downside to keeping each.

Is there a possibility that a new coach could harness DD's talent & make her a valuable asset? Worst case scenario if that doesn't happen...you have a sulky player sitting on the bench (not great for team chemistry but good teams have dealt with worse. I'm sure UCONN has dealt with prima donnas and still been successful).

On the other hand, do you really expect CHW to suddenly become a stellar strategic coach? That she will suddenly learn everything that she hasn't learned in 30+ years on the bench as head assistant and now head coach? That she will insert the right lineups, use timeouts wisely, restore team confidence in themselves, each other, & the staff, actually install a real offense, and repair any hurt feelings with players? And...in addition...top recruits will suddenly come knocking to play for her?

Personally, I'd bet on the former with DD as being more likely than the latter with CHW. You can probably find lots of instances in which players have turned around careers (especially with new coaches), but it's rare to find a coach suddenly being rejuvenated and transposed late in their career (without changing schools).
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#29
#29
creekdipper said:
Disagree.

DD is one player. She can only affect the team as much as the coach allows. If she is hurting the team, the coach has the ultimate recourse...riding the pine. The rest of the team can follow the coach's directives.

On the other hand, the coach affects everyone...and not just the current players. As 2016 recruiting results demonstrate, the coach is the one person in a position to impact the team for years to come. You think recruits turned down UT because of Diamond DeShields? Especially when she hadn't played a single game at UT yet?

Diamond isn't paid to run the team. Holly is. If CHW can't handle Diamond, she doesn't need to be coaching. Either play her or sit her.

Consider the possibilities and upside/downside to keeping each.

Is there a possibility that a new coach could harness DD's talent & make her a valuable asset? Worst case scenario if that doesn't happen...you have a sulky player sitting on the bench (not great for team chemistry but good teams have dealt with worse. I'm sure UCONN has dealt with prima donnas and still been successful).

On the other hand, do you really expect CHW to suddenly become a stellar strategic coach? That she will suddenly learn everything that she hasn't learned in 30+ years on the bench as head assistant and now head coach? That she will insert the right lineups, use timeouts wisely, restore team confidence in themselves, each other, & the staff, actually install a real offense, and repair any hurt feelings with players? And...in addition...top recruits will suddenly come knocking to play for her?

Personally, I'd bet on the former with DD as being more likely than the latter with CHW. You can probably find lots of instances in which players have turned around careers (especially with new coaches), but it's rare to find a coach suddenly being rejuvenated and transposed late in their career (without changing schools).
Click to expand...

I believe the problem quickly became too entrenched to think that riding the pine will solve the problem. Perhaps early on it would have. I think the coaches foresaw this, but underestimated it, last year, and in an effort to overcome it, ended up having the team trip to Italy and the "team building activity", thinking that those things would take care of the problem.
 
Last edited:
#30
#30
why are you people still posting on anything to do with this failure of a team and season?

The trees are budding, pollen is flying, flowers starting to poke thru the ground.

Move on, let the dead lie.
 
#31
#31
gule said:
why are you people still posting on anything to do with this failure of a team and season?

The trees are budding, pollen is flying, flowers starting to poke thru the ground.

Move on, let the dead lie.
Click to expand...

"Let the dead bury the dead" is what I say.
 
#33
#33
There is a real bad attitude problem on the team. Its almost like they are trying to lose. I say that because of the talent on this team. IMO you could give them the ball and not coach them and they should win the last two games. If they lose today them I question theyre desire to play for Holly. JMO folks. This team is to talented to lose games like this. A 6'6 post and two great players who by themselves can score enough points to win the last two games. To me it is very obvious and if they have a close game today Im convinced. Again JMO
 
#34
#34
As has been stated on many threads, the talent you reference is way overstated. Graves will be lucky to get a sniff of a W roster let alone a camp.
 
#35
#35
This is where so many people get Confused. Yes, it's great to tout the fact that you have x number of HIGH SCHOOL all Americans on your roster.

But, the FACT is that most of those HIGH SCHOOL all Americans, turn out to be Very Average once they reach college. This holds true whether it's football, or men's or women's basketball.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#36
#36
Rixxx said:
As has been stated on many threads, the talent you reference is way overstated. Graves will be lucky to get a sniff of a W roster let alone a camp.
Click to expand...

Graves will be drafted in the WNBA, they have 3 rounds and she is from a prestigious university and great coaches/talent evaluators will be able to see that she hasn't been utilized properly and be able to get the best out of her. She is a Bill Lambier and Dan Hughes type of player so I can see her being selected by New York or San Antonio in the second round and she will have a good career because they will know how to coach her up
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top