Different camera angle on Pig Fumble. MUST SEE!

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PeytonBerry

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I don't mean to dwell on the past, but they showed the fumble from a different view on the local channel. During the broadcast, the side angle made it look like he never had control with his left hand, but in this video he clearly did. And from my vantage point, he maintained control until the very moment the ball separated from his finger tips.

This is the very reason why video evidence must be INDISPUTABLE. After seeing this video and going back to the side angle, I am more convinced that the evidence was NOT indisputable. If there is any shred of doubt, the call stands.

With all that said, I couldn't be more proud of our guys, and honestly, the biggest win today came on the recruiting front, and my best guess is we won BIG. GO VOLS!!!

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It was an obvious fumble. Get over it, no one not wearing orange glasses doesn't think it was a fumble.
 
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That angle doesn't prove anything. It was close, but a fumble. If he'd taken an angle to hit the pylon, he probably gets it.
 
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Nobody disputes it was a fumble, just when the fumble occurred. The side angle made it look like his left hand never had any control of the ball. This angle shows that he did.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I just wanted to share something I found interesting.
 
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Looks like a score from that angle . . . . but the intent of the rule is to keep you from tossing the ball across, so I think they would have given it to him as long as it looked like the ground caused it to leave his hand.

Clearly he lost control somewhere before the ground, so they are not going to give you the score in that situation unless it is clear the loss of control happens after the ball is in.

I still think the penalty is inappropriate. Should be a ten or fifteen yard walk off instead of awarding possession to the other team.
 
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I've watched it a dozen times, both angles.

And I can't tell. I believe it was a fumble, but the more replays I watch, I believe it's possible that he did have control up until the instant the ball broke the plane of the goal.

But stated another way, it's a fumble. Whether he conclusively did or didn't possess the ball long enough. It's a fumble because the referees said that it was.
 
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ETNVol said:
I've watched it a dozen times, both angles.

And I can't tell. I believe it was a fumble, but the more replays I watch, I believe it's possible that he did have control up until the instant the ball broke the plane of the goal.

But stated another way, it's a fumble. Whether he conclusively did or didn't possess the ball long enough. It's a fumble because the referees said that it was.
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There are some points of reference you are missing. There is the shadow of the ball and the hit by the defender.
 
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I agree that it "looked like a fumble" but my argument is that the evidence wasn't conclusive.
 
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ETNVol said:
I've watched it a dozen times, both angles.

And I can't tell. I believe it was a fumble, but the more replays I watch, I believe it's possible that he did have control up until the instant the ball broke the plane of the goal.

But stated another way, it's a fumble. Whether he conclusively did or didn't possess the ball long enough. It's a fumble because the referees said that it was.
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There are some points of reference you are missing in the second view. There is the shadow of the ball and the hit by the defender.

Edit: Sorry about the double post with my edit.
 
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The only thing I don't understand is why they kept showing it to everyone from the same angle. It would've helped out a lot if they had showed a few different angles.
 
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You know it is so funny listening to so called vol fans that would go against our own team and say "yeah it was a fumble". Even if I really thought it was I would never admit it. It makes me wonder if we didn't have replay would everybody on here be saying "we got lucky cause pig fumbled". Bama fans wouldn't do that crap what a bunch of loser vol fans. Be true to your team!
 
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How does an angle where you have no idea when the ball broke the plane help to prove that he had control when the ball broke the plane?
 
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I bet all those so called vol fans thought that the unc music city bowl was called correctly too
 
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sammyjoey said:
How does an angle where you have no idea when the ball broke the plane help to prove that he had control when the ball broke the plane?
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You have to look at both replays to get an idea. The replay from the broadcast leaves the viewer wondering whether or not Pig had control of the ball in his left hand. This video (IMO) shows that he did have control which influences how you view the first replay. Give it a go with fresh eyes. Here's a gif of the side angle.

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1843311/tenfumble.gif
 
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