DL Jordan Phillips Enters Transfer Portal

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3 star from Orlando, Florida and 6'2 295.

This guy got rave reviews from Rodney Garner during the Music City Bowl prep last season.
 
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last I saw we are next to last in portal entries w/ UGA being the least....so, think JH doing good job setting culture, but also expectations. Recruits leave when they don't get PT, but they also leave mostly if the experience they were recruited to doesn't match reality. Think over the next few years, we're going to be consistently back in the upper tier every year.
 
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njvols said:
last I saw we are next to last in portal entries w/ UGA being the least....so, think JH doing good job setting culture, but also expectations. Recruits leave when they don't get PT, but they also leave mostly if the experience they were recruited to doesn't match reality. Think over the next few years, we're going to be consistently back in the upper tier every year.
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I think JH is waiting until after the bowl game to get more aggressive in the portal
 
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Hate to see him leave. He has potential but he's a developmental player at a developmental position and was always going to take him a couple years to grow into a rotational lineman. He will be in the same spot if he goes to another Power 5 program or he can transfer down to get more playing time.
 
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Sarms58 said:
Wish he would have stayed but these guys do have to do what they think is best for themselves. Hope he goes outside the SEC and does well.
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I just hope their decisions are based on thoughtful complementation and not childish reactions such as "they didn't do what they told me they would, had nothing to do with my lack of effort or me not getting to play, I will just take my great ability and go somewhere I will be appreciated for my potential".
 
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BigBadVol said:
These kids today sure have a lot of quit in them. The ole excuse "they have to do what's best for themselves" is an excuse to quit but pretend it's a "business" decision. Quit when it doesn't go your way is a bad way to go thru life.
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GREAT TO THE POINT POST!!!
 
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BigBadVol said:
These kids today sure have a lot of quit in them. The ole excuse "they have to do what's best for themselves" is an excuse to quit but pretend it's a "business" decision. Quit when it doesn't go your way is a bad way to go thru life.
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I don't disagree with you for the most part, but with the way it is now would Kamara not have been justified in transferring due to Hurd playing in front of him.

Some times the kid is right and he should be starting and needs to go somewhere else as the coach is just making the wrong decision.

I'm not saying that is the case here, but it is possible is all I'm saying.
 
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BigBadVol said:
These kids today sure have a lot of quit in them. The ole excuse "they have to do what's best for themselves" is an excuse to quit but pretend it's a "business" decision. Quit when it doesn't go your way is a bad way to go thru life.
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To say the same but frame it differently, kids today are--by a lifetime of interactions with a digital world which anticipates and pushes to them what they want or will find interesting--wired to interpret (a relative) lack of instant and constant gratification as a sign that "I must be in the wrong place." The internet is a world of near infinite options. Over 500 hours of video are uploaded into YouTube every minute. If you're not stimulated by one video in the first 5 seconds, you just move on to another.

As athletes, they are certainly at the low end of that instant gratification scale among their cohorts. But I think they must be influenced nonetheless, especially in comparison with generations before who made their way entirely in the "real" material or analog world.

Old timers know the real world is much more limited--and limiting--and that the best a human can do is to create his/her own opportunity, and that relentless pursuit is still the best determiner of success.
 
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BigBadVol said:
These kids today sure have a lot of quit in them. The ole excuse "they have to do what's best for themselves" is an excuse to quit but pretend it's a "business" decision. Quit when it doesn't go your way is a bad way to go thru life.
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What? Looking around and seeing that you don't have what the others have isn't quitting. They're going to a *different* place. And sometimes, quitting is the best thing you can do. Knowing when to quit > spinning your wheels needlessly. There's nothing noble about manning a losing position.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
To say the same but frame it differently, kids today are--by a lifetime of interactions with a digital world which anticipates and pushes to them what they want or will find interesting--wired to interpret (a relative) lack of instant and constant gratification as a sign that "I must be in the wrong place." The internet is a world of near infinite options. Over 500 hours of video are uploaded into YouTube every minute. If you're not stimulated by one video in the first 5 seconds, you just move on to another.

As athletes, they are certainly at the low end of that instant gratification scale among their cohorts. But I think they must be influenced nonetheless, especially in comparison with generations before who made their way entirely in the "real" material or analog world.

Old timers know the real world is much more limited--and limiting--and that the best a human can do is to create his/her own opportunity, and that relentless pursuit is still the best determiner of success.
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People have been clicking the next channel button on the remote for 75 years.
 
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savannahfan said:
I just hope their decisions are based on thoughtful complementation and not childish reactions such as "they didn't do what they told me they would, had nothing to do with my lack of effort or me not getting to play, I will just take my great ability and go somewhere I will be appreciated for my potential".
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For most players, college is the only window to keep playing that they'll have. If they're not gonna get reps at one place, why not go where they can? MOST players aren't going pro. Is it worth your time to sit behind people, work your butt off, and not play because they're better? If you were in a job with no possibility of promotion, do you just grind it out? Hell no. You go where the opportunity is. The vast majority of players know that these 5 years (with RS) is all they're gonna get. And for us, that's a good thing. We don't get better if bodies who won't ever play are taking up a spot.
 
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EconVol92 said:
I don't disagree with you for the most part, but with the way it is now would Kamara not have been justified in transferring due to Hurd playing in front of him.

Some times the kid is right and he should be starting and needs to go somewhere else as the coach is just making the wrong decision.

I'm not saying that is the case here, but it is possible is all I'm saying.
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You make a good point that balances the discussion.

200 years ago a son's livelihood was almost sure to be the same as his dad's, especially outside the U.S. The world has since discovered that freedom begats opportunities and options.

But the perceived number of options available has increased exponentially for each generation since WW2. In this "wild West" of options, people who are focused, goal-oriented, and value-guided are more likely to find their niche for success within that multitude of options.

Too many options, though, leads to paralysis, and then people have to come up with a plan--any plan--to move their lives forward. Whether by plan or necessity, the case for relinquishing much of life to Artificial Intelligence is being made daily, and citizens unaccustomed to actively plotting a course through life will sadly embrace it.
 
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BigBadVol said:
These kids today sure have a lot of quit in them. The ole excuse "they have to do what's best for themselves" is an excuse to quit but pretend it's a "business" decision. Quit when it doesn't go your way is a bad way to go thru life.
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When you've been the biggest guy in your classes every year. When you're the biggest on your little league teams and getting all the at a boys. When you have always been told how good you are, then get to college and realize there's 15 guys that play your position that are as good as you and are willing to out work you. Reality sets in and fight turns into flight.
 
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If a player is being developed, coaches really must do a better job of communicating any plans they have for youngsters to play more in the future. Younger players now for the most part are just unwilling to sit down and not play much. If coaches do not see them having a future, the easiest thing to do is let them die on the vine and they'll hit the portal.
 
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BigBadVol said:
These kids today sure have a lot of quit in them. The ole excuse "they have to do what's best for themselves" is an excuse to quit but pretend it's a "business" decision. Quit when it doesn't go your way is a bad way to go thru life.
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Possibly. Also possible he was encouraged to look around.
 
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BigBadVol said:
These kids today sure have a lot of quit in them. The ole excuse "they have to do what's best for themselves" is an excuse to quit but pretend it's a "business" decision. Quit when it doesn't go your way is a bad way to go thru life.
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Except when they transfer here….right?
 
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MiramarVol said:
When you've been the biggest guy in your classes every year. When you're the biggest on your little league teams and getting all the at a boys. When you have always been told how good you are, then get to college and realize there's 15 guys that play your position that are as good as you and are willing to out work you. Reality sets in and fight turns into flight.
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Reminds me of my son's college coach's speech to the incoming freshmen's parents after explaining that all the kids were all-region, all state, etc.: "If you come to me and ask me why your son is not playing, I'm going to give you the answer right now...he's not good enough. So, if you don't want to hear that, don't ask."
 
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