Do Star Ratings REALLY Matter That Much?

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The guy who runs the Oregon rivals.com site noted today that Oregon is in the National Title game with 5 starters that were 4 star players, with the rest being 3 star players and below.

That being said, does this help change perceptions about star ratings and their worth? (Especially if Oregon wins.)
 
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MaehlMan said:
The guy who runs the Oregon rivals.com site noted today that Oregon is in the National Title game with 5 starters that were 4 star players, with the rest being 3 star players and below.

That being said, does this help change perceptions about star ratings and their worth? (Especially if Oregon wins.)
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If you can literally run the other team out of gas with the kind of speed Oregon has, then it doesn't matter what the star ratings are as long as you have a halfway competent QB and O Line
 
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MaehlMan said:
The guy who runs the Oregon rivals.com site noted today that Oregon is in the National Title game with 5 starters that were 4 star players, with the rest being 3 star players and below.

That being said, does this help change perceptions about star ratings and their worth? (Especially if Oregon wins.)
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The rating itself isn't what matters, it's just generally a good indicator.
 
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If they fit the system IMO. Tom Osborne won alot of games with overlooked talent and walk-ons.
 
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^ And steroids.

It doesn't determine how a team does in each and every case, i.e. finding diamonds in the rough, or finding guys who fit a system a'la Chip Kelly, but the evidence is pretty apparent that top notch recruiting classes lead to great successes, and mediocre recruiting classes tend to lead to mediocrity.
 
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Look at the teams who have won the past NC and you have your answer about star value. I will take the star players and top recruiting classes any day if you are wanting to reach that level.
 
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Yes they do. Look at the ratings, and then look at who's won titles, and you'll find the answer yourself.

Btw, the other team in the NC game, Auburn, just brought in a top 5 recruiting class last season. Would you like to guess who their premier signee was? 5* recruit Cam Newton. Go figure.

Edit: Here's a quick, albeit short; list of prospects that have been 5* recruits over the years.

Reggie Bush, Percy Harvin, Adrian Peterson, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, AJ Green, Julio Jones, Da'Quan Bowers, Patrick Peterson, Vontaze Burfict, Vince Young, Haloti Ngata, Ted Ginn Jr., Rey Maualuga, Mark Sanchez, Jonathan Stewart, DeSean Jackson, Darren McFadden, Chris Wells, C.J. Spiller, Taylor Mays, Brandon Spikes, Eric Berry, Ryan Mallet, etc, etc, etc. The list goes on and on.
 
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oregon is the first team without major recruiting classes to get to the bcs title game since vtech and vick. that was a long time ago. this screams exception, rather than the rule.
 
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droski said:
oregon is the first team without major recruiting classes to get to the bcs title game since vtech and vick. that was a long time ago. this screams exception, rather than the rule.
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this. Fortunate scheduling and conference weakness make outcomes like this one a rarity, thank goodness.
 
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Bumi said:
Yes they do. Look at the ratings, and then look at who's won titles, and you'll find the answer yourself.

Btw, the other team in the NC game, Auburn, just brought in a top 5 recruiting class last season. Would you like to guess who their premier signee was? 5* recruit Cam Newton. Go figure.

Edit: Here's a quick, albeit short; list of prospects that have been 5* recruits over the years.

Reggie Bush, Percy Harvin, Adrian Peterson, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, AJ Green, Julio Jones, Da'Quan Bowers, Patrick Peterson, Vontaze Burfict, Vince Young, Haloti Ngata, Ted Ginn Jr., Rey Maualuga, Mark Sanchez, Jonathan Stewart, DeSean Jackson, Darren McFadden, Chris Wells, C.J. Spiller, Taylor Mays, Brandon Spikes, Eric Berry, Ryan Mallet, etc, etc, etc. The list goes on and on.
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Actually, if you looked at teams that annually appear in the top 25 and look at the past five years recruiting rankings, you will find programs that do very well that do not have top 15 recruiting classes.
 
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BasketvolsFan said:
Actually, if you looked at teams that annually appear in the top 25 and look at the past five years recruiting rankings, you will find programs that do very well that do not have top 15 recruiting classes.
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how many from bcs conferences?
 
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MaehlMan said:
Yeah, a 5 star pocket passer with no mobility would be a great fit in Oregon's offense or any triple option offense.
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what 5 star qb has no mobility? me thinks if say matt barkley wanted to go to oregon that they might adjust the system to him.
 
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BasketvolsFan said:
Actually, if you looked at teams that annually appear in the top 25 and look at the past five years recruiting rankings, you will find programs that do very well that do not have top 15 recruiting classes.
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How many of em win championship games, or BCS bowls for that matter?
 
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droski said:
you think oregon would turn down peyton manning?
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If he was a guy coming out of high school? Absolutely. It's not even plausible because a kid like that wouldn't want to play in an offense like Oregon's, but if he did, the coaches would not offer him a scholarship. His only use would be as a scout team quarterback to simulate other pocket passers.
 
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MaehlMan said:
If he was a guy coming out of high school? Absolutely. It's not even plausible because a kid like that wouldn't want to play in an offense like Oregon's, but if he did, the coaches would not offer him a scholarship. His only use would be as a scout team quarterback to simulate other pocket passers.
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i completely agree he'd probably not pick oregon, but i very much doubt oregon woudl turn down the #1 recruit in the country (which i believe peyton was out of high school). florida took brantley. good coaches adjust to their talent.
 
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droski said:
i completely agree he'd probably not pick oregon, but i very much doubt oregon woudl turn down the #1 recruit in the country (which i believe peyton was out of high school). florida took brantley.
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Yeah, and our offense is way more run-oriented than Florida's. Despite that, the Brantley experiment in Florida was a disaster. I'm fairly sure that they wouldn't offer him. They'd probably tell him something like "Kid, you're not going to be successful here. Don't squander your talent playing in this offense. Go play in a pro-style. Best of luck to you."
 
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