Do Star Ratings REALLY Matter That Much?

[Volgrad98]

Star ratings only count if the kid lives up to them.

 

[TnScooby]

3 programs with National titles in the last 5 years? :ermm:

Uh no...3 programs that went a combined 21-15 THIS season...read my post carefully...:whistling:

 

[FREE EARL]

Uh no...3 programs that went a combined 21-15 THIS season...read my post carefully...:whistling:

I read it. A single season doesn't define a program. And Alabama is a game away from finishing 10-3 or 9-4. Not exactly a poor season.

 

[TnScooby]

Apparently you missed the point of my post AND the thread...Star ratings didn't seem to matter much for those 3 teams THIS season...It was sarcasm...Geez take off your serious hat for a while.....

 

[Tux]

then why does every div 1a program subscribe to every recruiting service?

They all don't. Derek Dooley, just this week, said that he doesn't believe in or think highly of these star recruiting services opinions. There are many coaches who laugh at them.

 

[FREE EARL]

Apparently you missed the point of my post AND the thread...Star ratings didn't seem to matter much for those 3 teams THIS season

No I didn't. The point of this thread is determining whether or not recruiting services and their methods of evaluation are accurate in predicting how well ones talent will translate over to the next level(s). And ultimately, if it plays any roll in a programs overall success. Using a single season sample as proof to why they don't is fallacious at best, especially when the 3 programs featured in your example have all won NC's within the last 5 years. Two of the programs: Texas, and Florida; have multiple title appearances.

...It was sarcasm...Geez take off your serious hat for a while.....

Me, serious? No way. :birgits_giggle:

 

[droski]

They all don't. Derek Dooley, just this week, said that he doesn't believe in or think highly of these star recruiting services opinions. There are many coaches who laugh at them.

I'll bet you any amount of money you want he subscribes to those services. if your boise I suppose it doesn't matter since you have to find the under the radar guys. Tenn shouldn't be doing the same. These services rate obvious talent. Not projects. Can a project turn into a star? Of course. Is it as likely as a guy whose tape blows everyone away? Of course not. no one is saying the services have more or better info than the coaches but it's absurd to argue that the average national championship caliber player can't be spotted by novices. Its a game of averages.

 

[IndianaVol]

Star rankings are like the stars in the sky...they don't get much attention until one comes crashing down.

 

[MaehlMan]

Anyway, I'll take a coaching staff's ability to evaluate a player over a website's.

 

[cotton]

They all don't. Derek Dooley, just this week, said that he doesn't believe in or think highly of these star recruiting services opinions. There are many coaches who laugh at them.

What are they supposed to tell the fanbase, that they are unable to attract top talent and therefore settled for a bunch of projects and role players?

Explain to me how teams that keep getting top ranked recruiting classes keep winning championships under your theory.

 

[Tux]

What are they supposed to tell the fanbase, that they are unable to attract top talent and therefore settled for a bunch of projects and role players?

Explain to me how teams that keep getting top ranked recruiting classes keep winning championships under your theory.

Tell me what teams did before the star system magazines were created and introduced? Did they even have championships and rankings?...or even football games before they were created? Using your line of thinking, the star systems and services created the game.

 

[cotton]

Tell me what teams did before the star system magazines were created and introduced? Did they even have championships and rankings?...or even football games before they were created? Using your line of thinking, the star systems and services created the game.

Where did I say that? If you are going to try to argue based on spurious logic, I would at least appreciate it if you would refrain from making up my arguments for me.

Recent championship teams have all been built on multiple top ranked recruiting classes, and all of them except 2006 Florida, who had a #2, had a #1 class. That's positive correlation, making this statement

Star ratings matter to people who have nothing to do and have money that is burning a hoe in their pocket. Other than that they are worthless to the success of a college football program.

complete and utter nonsense.

 

[jsc1973]

you think oregon would turn down peyton manning?

Yes, because if somebody like Peyton Manning played for Oregon, he would be totally ineffective. Peyton Manning is slow and can't run the option.

Are you old enough to remember when Troy Aikman tried to run the Wishbone for one of Barry Switzer's Oklahoma teams? He started three times for them. Once as a freshman in 1984--they lost 28-11 to Kansas. Twice as a sophomore in 1985--they barely beat a bad Minnesota team 13-7, and then he broke his leg against Miami.

Then they put in a real Wishbone quarterback and won the national championship. Aikman transferred to UCLA, where he belonged.

Just because someone is very talented doesn't mean they always are a good fit. Most Tennessee quarterbacks couldn't have played in Oregon's offense. Tee Martin would have been great in it. Heath Shuler could have. But after them, you have to go back a long way.