Do the TV broadcasts reduce the sound on the crowd mikes in Neyland/TBA?

[NighthawkVol]

Every report I've seen from TBA yesterday for the Texas game says that the place was very loud. But it didn't sound loud on TV, especially compared to the game at Rupp that followed.

Similarly, being at the football games against Florida and Alabama this year, I know first hand that those crowds were REALLY loud. But when I re-watch those broadcasts on TV, it doesn't sound loud.

It makes me wonder if the mikes that pick up crowd noise are being reduced in Knoxville compared to other venues. Or perhaps it has to do with mike placement?

 

[VolPack22]

Every report I've seen from TBA yesterday for the Texas game says that the place was very loud. But it didn't sound loud on TV, especially compared to the game at Rupp that followed.

Similarly, being at the football games against Florida and Alabama this year, I know first hand that those crowds were REALLY loud. But when I re-watch those broadcasts on TV, it doesn't sound loud.

It makes me wonder if the mikes that pick up crowd noise are being reduced in Knoxville compared to other venues. Or perhaps it has to do with mike placement?

I have no idea but I assume they can pick and choose which mics are active during the broadcast and I would also assume the noise cancellation is top notch. All I know is that February 15th will be the loudest basketball environment in the country this season. Could end up being the first top 5 matchup in TBA history.

 

[NighthawkVol]

I have no idea but I assume they can pick and choose which mics are active during the broadcast and I would also assume the noise cancellation is top notch. All I know is that February 15th will be the loudest basketball environment in the country this season. Could end up being the first top 5 matchup in TBA history.

I assume you're correct. But why are they choosing to make Rupp sound loud and not TBA? Same with the CBS football broadcasts.

 

[VolPack22]

I assume you're correct. But why are they choosing to make Rupp sound loud and not TBA? Same with the CBS football broadcasts.

Only thing I can think of is that the person in charge is a Vanderbilt grad and has little man syndrome

 

[TAF]

You CAN'T hear ANYONE OVER DICKIE V...............BAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[cwbytruckers]

I watched the game from home and the sound of the fans was very loud on my tv.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

There's a sound mixer in the production van. It has separate volume settings for the announcers, for the sideline reporter, for the stadium/arena announcer (yep, they can dial that up and down if they wish...I think maybe for copyright reasons, they leave it pretty much muted most of the time)...and for crowd noise and other things. The crowd noise may be captured by just a single mic stuck out the window of the announcers' booth, or it may be a more complex mix of microphones spread around the stadium/arena. Depends on how well the facility is wired up.

Anyway, yes, the guy or gal running that mixing board can dial the crowd noise up and down as they wish. They want to strike a nice balance for the TV audience: constant awareness that the crowd is there, without it becoming annoying or a distraction.

I noticed this past football season that they were dialing it a bit too high throughout the duration of a few of our games. Then again, there's some personal preference to that; maybe it was just right for other viewers.

Go Vols!

Edit: realized after posting that I missed making this key point: there is no "right" or "natural" level to the crowd noise. One mic, designed to only pick up close sounds, is used for an announcer, and "hears" him far better than the crowd around him; barely hears them at all. Another mic, used for crowd noise, wouldn't be able to hear the announcer very well no matter how it is dialed up or down. So each is its own thing, and there's no such thing as a "natural balance" when you add them together. Mixing them is all a matter of choice.

 

[Wireless1]

You CAN'T hear ANYONE OVER DICKIE V...............BAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!

All I heard was Ducky V talking about everything except the game in front of him. I guess with all his time off he thought up a lot of storys

 

[ftsandersvol]

ABC seems to be the only network that doesn't filter out crowd noise. So much so that you really have a hard time even hearing the announcers. It is actually quite annoying, but I guess it can be a blessing depending on who is announcing.

 

[Godfatha]

The Bama-Tennessee game seemed pretty loud on the TV to me.

 

[Adam Sandler]

I have no idea but I assume they can pick and choose which mics are active during the broadcast and I would also assume the noise cancellation is top notch. All I know is that February 15th will be the loudest basketball environment in the country this season. Could end up being the first top 5 matchup in TBA history.

Kinda hard to believe with playing uk annually and the years of the memphis rivalry that we haven’t had a mens bb top 5 matchup there. Hope we pull an Oklahoma on them.

 

[PACKERVOL]

I I also noticed a very distinct higher sound volume from the crowd at Rupp vs. TBA.

 

[volfanhill]

I was sitting on my remote

 

[GiveHim6InSC]

Every report I've seen from TBA yesterday for the Texas game says that the place was very loud. But it didn't sound loud on TV, especially compared to the game at Rupp that followed.

Similarly, being at the football games against Florida and Alabama this year, I know first hand that those crowds were REALLY loud. But when I re-watch those broadcasts on TV, it doesn't sound loud.

It makes me wonder if the mikes that pick up crowd noise are being reduced in Knoxville compared to other venues. Or perhaps it has to do with mike placement?

It would suit me if they would at least adjust it loud enough to drown Vitale

 

[508mikey]

and fire the lacky that twirls the lights all over -- its gotten old

 

[beachvol23]

Every report I've seen from TBA yesterday for the Texas game says that the place was very loud. But it didn't sound loud on TV, especially compared to the game at Rupp that followed.

Similarly, being at the football games against Florida and Alabama this year, I know first hand that those crowds were REALLY loud. But when I re-watch those broadcasts on TV, it doesn't sound loud.

It makes me wonder if the mikes that pick up crowd noise are being reduced in Knoxville compared to other venues. Or perhaps it has to do with mike placement?

It happens lots of places. I’ve witnessed it in NFL, MLB AND NHL

 

[Probably_in_Class]

There's a sound mixer in the production van. It has separate volume settings for hearing the announcers up in their booth (or at their table beside the court for basketball), for the sideline reporter, for the stadium/arena announcer (yep, they can dial that up and down if they wish...I think maybe for copyright reasons, they leave it pretty much muted most of the time)...and for crowd noise and other things. The crowd noise may be captured by just a single mic stuck out the window of the announcers' booth, or it may be a more complex mix of microphones spread around the stadium/arena. Depends on how well the facility is wired up.

Anyway, yes, the guy or gal running that mixing board can dial the crowd noise up and down as they wish. They want to strike a nice balance for the TV audience: constant awareness that the crowd is there, without it becoming annoying or a distraction.

I noticed this past football season that they were dialing it a bit too high throughout the duration of a few of our games. Then again, there's some personal preference to that; maybe it was just right for other viewers.

Go Vols!

Edit: realized after posting that I missed making this key point: there is no "right" or "natural" level to the crowd noise. One mic, designed to only pick up close sounds, is used for an announcer, and "hears" him far better than the crowd around him; barely hears them at all. Another mic, used for crowd noise, wouldn't be able to hear the announcer very well no matter how it is dialed up or down. So each is its own thing, and there's no such thing as a "natural balance" when you add them together. Mixing them is all a matter of choice.

Great explanation. The Athletic had an article a while back. Apparently the Mavs arena is known for having louder "nets" than everyone else. It was assumed to be a tech thing, but it's actually just their audio guy is super good and turns up just the net mic at just the right time. I think they said Cuban didn't know that for a super long time either cause the guy would do the trick even when Cuban was just screwing around shooting on the court.

 

[TrippVol]

I was at TBA yesterday and it was loud, but not nearly as loud as I've heard in past years. It definitely was the loudest this season.

 

[robow]

I I also noticed a very distinct higher sound volume from the crowd at Rupp vs. TBA.

Arena capacity? Those blue hair fans on Ky Liquor?

 

[feathersax]

Only thing I can think of is that the person in charge is a Vanderbilt grad and has little man syndrome

Sounds logical.

 

[JohnnyJava]

I’m thankful that they did reduce the crowd noise in the mix. ESPN has been horrible the past 2-3 years with burying the commentator levels too low in the mix. Often, the commentary is practically inaudible. Horrible, incompetent production.

 

[NighthawkVol]

I’m thankful that they did reduce the crowd noise in the mix. ESPN has been horrible the past 2-3 years with burying the commentator levels too low in the mix. Often, the commentary is practically inaudible. Horrible, incompetent production.

I’d rather hear the crowd at Neyland or TBA than most announcers. Certainly more than Danielson.

 

[Vol865]

It's either that or the mics are in a closed press box. ESPN definitely pipes in sound to make some places seem louder than they are (ex. Clemson vs Louisville when Lamar was in college)

 

[BlinghamptonVol]

Everyone hates us and turns down our games while faking that the uga stadium was loud this year. Every network is in on it too.

 

[lukeneyland]

I’m thankful that they did reduce the crowd noise in the mix. ESPN has been horrible the past 2-3 years with burying the commentator levels too low in the mix. Often, the commentary is practically inaudible. Horrible, incompetent production.

I’d be happy with zero commentary and just pure crowd noise