Do we see change???

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g8terh8ter_eric

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I for one am ready for a change on Defense. I think it is time for a new strategy and direction for us to try a obtain. The thing is.......is Chavis safe because of Fulmer?? I really wonder that, because I think Sanders was kinda hung out to dry. GRANTED the offensive collapse was 75% his fault, but Fulmer really didn't try to save his skin. We had an AWESOME year offensively except for running the ball sometimes, but the Defense was really never suspect for big plays just allowing way too many first downs. Like the first downs to Florida and LSU. WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE WON THOSE GAMES!!! The thing is our D played 5-10 yards off their receivers and our LB's stayed in zone WAY TOO MUCH. As physical as the SEC is this type of D will get you exploited and you may be on the field over half the game, just like we were this year. Just thought I would see how many of you really want a change before next year and see what you would suggest Chavis do VERY Differnent for next year ( if he survives the off-season) if he is around.
 
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Unless the next Defensive Coordinator is a faith healer who can magically grant players with experience, I don't think we'll see a change.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I for one am ready for a change on Defense. I think it is time for a new strategy and direction for us to try a obtain. The thing is.......is Chavis safe because of Fulmer?? I really wonder that, because I think Sanders was kinda hung out to dry. GRANTED the offensive collapse was 75% his fault, but Fulmer really didn't try to save his skin. We had an AWESOME year offensively except for running the ball sometimes, but the Defense was really never suspect for big plays just allowing way too many first downs. Like the first downs to Florida and LSU. WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE WON THOSE GAMES!!! The thing is our D played 5-10 yards off their receivers and our LB's stayed in zone WAY TOO MUCH. As physical as the SEC is this type of D will get you exploited and you may be on the field over half the game, just like we were this year. Just thought I would see how many of you really want a change before next year and see what you would suggest Chavis do VERY Differnent for next year ( if he survives the off-season) if he is around.
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Survive the offseason? Chavis isn't getting fired. The D's problem was more lack of talent than a coaching or strategy problem.
 
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Some of this is an inexact science also. We've had a combo of injuries, defections, youth, and slow developing players. It happens.

Back when we had John Henderson, Haynesworth , Franklin -- or Ellis, Walker, Ratliffe, et al -- it just so happened that all of those guys could play and were there at the same time.

Even good recruiting can't guarantee that type of ability on the field at just the right time.

But it is fair to say that our depth is lacking, and the talent is lower.
 
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This is the same Defensive Coordinator that had one of the best defenses in the country last year and had to replace 6 of 7 starters up front and lost the lone returning starter a couple of games into the season. Why the secondary did underachieve, I don't think the full blame can be put on Chavis. We were very very young and inexperienced. There is talent on the defensive side of the ball, just not experience.
 
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boy, you are crazy. He in my book is the BEST defensive cordinator in the nation. We have a lack of talent and verterns due to losing 7-8 startes and playing young sophomores and freshman earlier then they are ready. We'll be back. If you honestly think we should fire him then you are crazy.
 
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mmm71690 said:
boy, you are crazy. He in my book is the BEST defensive cordinator in the nation. We have a lack of talent and verterns due to losing 7-8 startes and playing young sophomores and freshman earlier then they are ready. We'll be back. If you honestly think we should fire him then you are crazy.
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He's not the best. Worthy of being fired? No. If he were the best, he'd be a head coach or NFL coach by now.
 
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85% of head coaches are offensive guys. But anyways it is still completly crazy to think he should be fired or even think his job is in trouble. With the talent, depth, and experience we have it could have been worse. If McDaniel wouldnt have left it would have been McDaniel (whos doing great in the NFL) and Harrell as our tackles. We'll be back up soon.
 
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My question doesn't regard Chavis, but rather Slade the DB's coach. To me this is the biggest area of need, and I was under the assumption he was retiring after last season due to health reasons. I see the secondary as the area year after year that underacheives regardless of the amount of talent. How 'bout Chief stays and we revamp the DB's coach position?
 
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mmm71690 said:
85% of head coaches are offensive guys. But anyways it is still completly crazy to think he should be fired or even think his job is in trouble. With the talent, depth, and experience we have it could have been worse. If McDaniel wouldnt have left it would have been McDaniel (whos doing great in the NFL) and Harrell as our tackles. We'll be back up soon.
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Seems like USC did pretty well with a defensive guy.
 
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utvol0427 said:
This is the same Defensive Coordinator that had one of the best defenses in the country last year and had to replace 6 of 7 starters up front and lost the lone returning starter a couple of games into the season. Why the secondary did underachieve, I don't think the full blame can be put on Chavis. We were very very young and inexperienced. There is talent on the defensive side of the ball, just not experience.[/quote]

That 2005 defense also last year gave up winning drives in the fourth quarter to Alabama, Florida, Vandy, and South Carolina. As an encore this year has given up fourth quarter winning drives to Florida and LSU and looked pathetic against Arkansas.

Young? Let's see....
Defensive line starters: two seniors and two juniors!
Linebackers: one senior, one junior, and one soph!
Secondary: two seniors, one junior and one soph!

Inexperienced? whose fault is that for not getting
them in the rotation earlier in their careers!

Chavis is a mediocre defensive coach and has gottened a free ride for too long. I'm tired of seeing other teams convert "thirds and twenties" and "fourths and eights" and seeing fourth quarter collapses by our defense.
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Chavis is good. Top 20 in the nation. I wouldn't say he's the best bar none or anything like that.

I don't want to see him go but I wish we could someone under Chavis that could coach DB's.
 
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I agree that Chavis is a mediocre DC. WHY??? Because he, just like Sanders, has lived off of talent WAY TOO LONG. Now the talent is getting thinner. SO the D goes down a couple of notches. Also last year we were 5-6. I don't care if you have the best D in the nation, obviously there was a problem getting off of the field because we lost 6 games. Cut is the Real Deal OC. Now I say its time to bring a new spark to the Defensive side of the ball. Because until we do, WE WILL NOT GET THE TALENT BACK WE HAD FROM 1994-2000. No one wants to help revitalize a defense that has to play all game long.

BTW we still gave up almost 300 yards in Total Net Defense, and our opponents lead the TOP by almost 1 minute per game, and this year it was 323 yards per game on D and almost 3 minutes more on TOP.
 
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rockydoc said:
utvol0427 said:
This is the same Defensive Coordinator that had one of the best defenses in the country last year and had to replace 6 of 7 starters up front and lost the lone returning starter a couple of games into the season. Why the secondary did underachieve, I don't think the full blame can be put on Chavis. We were very very young and inexperienced. There is talent on the defensive side of the ball, just not experience.[/quote]

That 2005 defense also last year gave up winning drives in the fourth quarter to Alabama, Florida, Vandy, and South Carolina. As an encore this year has given up fourth quarter winning drives to Florida and LSU and looked pathetic against Arkansas.

Young? Let's see....
Defensive line starters: two seniors and two juniors!
Linebackers: one senior, one junior, and one soph!
Secondary: two seniors, one junior and one soph!

Inexperienced? whose fault is that for not getting
them in the rotation earlier in their careers!

Chavis is a mediocre defensive coach and has gottened a free ride for too long. I'm tired of seeing other teams convert "thirds and twenties" and "fourths and eights" and seeing fourth quarter collapses by our defense.
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And part of the UT system is based on depth and that is what hurt the D and why people say we were young. No way Chavis leaves or even is considered an option. Slade on the other hand could retire and it wouldn't bother me.
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GAVol said:
Unless the next Defensive Coordinator is a faith healer who can magically grant players with experience, I don't think we'll see a change.
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Time for the Volnation to send their prayer cloth to Robert Tilton.
 
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That 2005 defense also last year gave up winning drives in the fourth quarter to Alabama, Florida
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The defense played their rear's off both those games. We lost those games because of our offense. 16-7, 6-3.
 
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crimedawg12 said:
and those offers for his services keep rollin in!
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it's funny how we hear every couple of years that Chavis doesn't want to go anywhere, the he loves his job. but how many times has he actually been offered a job/interview?
 
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D's ills this year fall both on player and coaching. Some games just flat out wrong defensive schemes were called and some some players just looked lost. Having said that I think the D will turn around next year due to experience. Easier to coach when kids understand what you are telling them or recognize when they should change out of a play.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I for one am ready for a change on Defense. I think it is time for a new strategy and direction for us to try a obtain. The thing is.......is Chavis safe because of Fulmer?? I really wonder that, because I think Sanders was kinda hung out to dry. GRANTED the offensive collapse was 75% his fault, but Fulmer really didn't try to save his skin. We had an AWESOME year offensively except for running the ball sometimes, but the Defense was really never suspect for big plays just allowing way too many first downs. Like the first downs to Florida and LSU. WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE WON THOSE GAMES!!! The thing is our D played 5-10 yards off their receivers and our LB's stayed in zone WAY TOO MUCH. As physical as the SEC is this type of D will get you exploited and you may be on the field over half the game, just like we were this year. Just thought I would see how many of you really want a change before next year and see what you would suggest Chavis do VERY Differnent for next year ( if he survives the off-season) if he is around.
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UT had the no.2 rushing defense in the nation last season. I think this might be a little premature. I agree though Slade has never impressed me as the DB coach.
 
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