Do you remember how.......

[ric1958]

Woodson winning was a complete joke. He wasn`t even the best defensive back in the country that year. He can thank ESPN for the trophy. He didn`t deserve it.

 

[Volnut]

You guys may hate to hear it, but Woodson has been a beast throughout his entire NFL career.

There have been many defensive player to have a beast of a NFL career. But that doesn't mean they should have won the Heistman while in college.

And since we're on the NFL career subject. Whose career would you call most stellar, Woodchuck's or Manning's?

 

[VFL34]

Heath Shuler came in 2nd to Charlie Ward!

Johnny Majors came in 2nd to Notre Dame's Golden Boy, Paul Horning.

Hank L. was a Heisman candidate too.

Manning was 2nd to Woodson.


I personally think that Carl Pickens, Manning and Jamaal Lewis were good enough to win the Heisman....


Carl was playing defense & offense 10 years before Woodson did it.

My boy Lewis was great. His problem was he like to take plays off in college because he didn't wanna get hurt, but he never did anything to jeopardize a loss. Love that dude though. Great motivator for the vols, and a hell of a running back. Believe it or not though t20 was way harder to tackle.

 

[daj2576]

The Heisman has less meaning than a Nickelodean kid's choice award. It is a popularity contest voted on largely by people who won it before, and the media.

Think of any award or position where the gatekeeper is a combination of previous winners and the media. If there is another one I bet you'd either find it is totally corrupt or meaningless.

Supposedly the media gets to vote because they are "informed and objective." The unwritten meaning there seems to attempt to balance out the votes of past winners who are likely neither. The statement about the media makes no sense, on its face, as the media polls were actually booted from the BCS calculations because they were neither informed nor objective.

Personally I believe a step up for the Heisman would be to vote on the winner American Idle style. Or Survivor style.

Or, the Heisman could simply add meaning by making an objective set of criteria (ex: must be a junior so there is a body of work to review), and having a truly objective panel weigh all criterion and vote. If a player doesn't get a certain % of the vote, the award isn't given. Also, it should be voted on after bowl season so every game can be accounted for.

 

[GrowVol]

If the AP and Sports journalists vote on anything it automatically discredits it entirely. JMO

 

[knoxvols11]

The worst screwing was johnny.Hornung was a good back on a 2win 8loss Notre Dame team.You need to realize that it is law that a midwest team(Ohoho State,Missygan, and the Dame are always in the top ten preseason.

Did people live in trailers back then?

 

[apevol]

Johnny didn't get screwed, folks. Jim brown got screwed.

 

[utvolpj]

Johnny didn't get screwed, folks. Jim brown got screwed.

finally

 

[KingNick865]

No because I was 7.

 

[Bms4880]

I kid you not. One of the commentators that night said, "If Manning had played against Big 10 defenses, he would not have been as successful."

 

[ChattanoogaVols]

Woodson over Manning? The first and only time a primarily defensive player won the Heisman just happens to be the same time Peyton deserved it?

This

Yeah I am still miffed about it.

This, too.

ESPN was all over Woodsons and Michigans nuts that year like they were so good.

Also, this.

Nebraska would have stomped a mud hole in them the same way they did to us.

Definitely this.

 

[ChattanoogaVols]

Johnny didn't get screwed, folks. Jim brown got screwed.

Jim Brown didn't play for UT.

Therefore, Johnny got screwed, not Jim Brown.

 

[james_govols]

The Heisman is a joke anyways. Is it a joke because of what happened to Manning? Maybe.

 

[#JuanVol]

I have bama friends that still tell me that Manning not winning was the biggest Heisman joke.

 

[Remy]

It is my desire if any future Vol does win it, takes the podium, and immediately busts the head off it, leans into the mic and says something to the effect "it became a BS award when Johnny and Peyton were both robbed, we reject it for all Vols past present and future." Eff the Heisman ...

 

[I Love Lamp]

Scott crouch and Ty Detner... Enough said

Not sure if you meant Eric Crouch but he was pretty killer the year he won the heisman. The funny thing though is to look back on the ballot that year and see the guys he beat out such as Roy Williams (DB), Julius Peppers, and Dwight Freeney.