Do you Think Its Fair

#28
#28
vols-1 said:
What about Stanford, they won big last week!
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they play a team actually ranked?


(bigger issue: Stanford can't make it unless undefeated; Southern Cal doesn't count as ANYTHING at ALL in the computer standings....beating a good team, strength of schedule, opponents success, etc, they factor in to none of it)
 
#30
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TrueOrange said:
they play a team actually ranked?


(bigger issue: Stanford can't make it unless undefeated; Southern Cal doesn't count as ANYTHING at ALL in the computer standings....beating a good team, strength of schedule, opponents success, etc, they factor in to none of it)
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Yep, if Stanford doesn't make a BCS bowl because of USC not being eligible for the rankings and thus not counting in SOS, it will be an epic screw job.

As for OP, same thing I keep saying... There needs to be a rule saying only conference champions are eligible for the BCS title game, but under the current rules it's the two best teams and Alabama and LSU are the two best. Bama had their shot against LSU at home and lost and that should have been the end of it.

Best part is that if Bama wins the championship game there would be yet another split national championship in the BCS era and further shoot its credibility all to hell.
 
#31
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milohimself said:
Yep, if Stanford doesn't make a BCS bowl because of USC not being eligible for the rankings and thus not counting in SOS, it will be an epic screw job.

As for OP, same thing I keep saying... There needs to be a rule saying only conference champions are eligible for the BCS title game, but under the current rules it's the two best teams and Alabama and LSU are the two best. Bama had their shot against LSU at home and lost and that should have been the end of it.

Best part is that if Bama wins the championship game there would be yet another split national championship in the BCS era and further shoot its credibility all to hell.
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they'll still get an at-large bid, but there was no way they could make any significant jumps to the NC as a one loss team...it's all probably why, while undefeated, they still placed behind alabama that one week: it was like a team on their schedule just wasn't there...and other teams in the conference were losing to someone not present.


But yes, it'd be one h-ll of a skew job of Stanford were to somehow miss any BCS game at all because of USC's bowl ban...another case of Lane Kiffin trolling the NCAA
 
#34
#34
If Oklahoma State had not lost to Iowa State, is this even an issue?

Does Oklahoma State get a pass for playing against Iowa State the very day the players found out about the deaths of Budke and Serna?

If someone who worked for you came in and said told you that someone close to them had just died, would you hold them to the same standard that day that you usually hold them to?

Of course, this hinges on how close Budke and Serna were to the program and the players; from all accounts, though, it appears they were very close and very involved with plenty of the football players.
 
#35
#35
orangetaz said:
Bama might get to play for title game,and they didnt even goto the sec championship game?
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Yes.

Nothing states that you have to win your conference championship in order to play for all of the marbles.

Using such logic, those opposing Bama playing would have been happy with Wisconsin playing OK State had Georgia beaten LSU.

The fact is that Bama and LSU are the two very best teams in college football. Until a playoff is instituted, you can't get caught up in a playoff mentality, when everything is sewt up against a playoff.
 
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#36
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therealUT said:
If Oklahoma State had not lost to Iowa State, is this even an issue?

Does Oklahoma State get a pass for playing against Iowa State the very day the players found out about the deaths of Budke and Serna?

If someone who worked for you came in and said told you that someone close to them had just died, would you hold them to the same standard that day that you usually hold them to?

Of course, this hinges on how close Budke and Serna were to the program and the players; from all accounts, though, it appears they were very close and very involved with plenty of the football players.
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Assume = makes an ass out of you and me.
 
#37
#37
Tux said:
Yes.

Nothing states that you have to win your conference championship in order to play for all of the marbles.

Using such logic, those opposing Bama playing would have been happy with Wisconsin playing OK State had Georgia beaten LSU.

The fact is that Bama and LSU are the two very best teams in college football. Until a playoff is instituted, you can't get caught up in a playoff mentality, when everything is sewt up against a playoff.
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This is a fact?
 
#39
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Tux said:
Yes.

Nothing states that you have to win your conference championship in order to play for all of the marbles.

Using such logic, those opposing Bama playing would have been happy with Wisconsin playing OK State had Georgia beaten LSU.

The fact is that Bama and LSU are the two very best teams in college football. Until a playoff is instituted, you can't get caught up in a playoff mentality, when everything is sewt up against a playoff.
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We've been told for years that the regular season is a playoff, so the mentality is already there. People can't just switch it off because the situation changed.

Which is why this system will never be as good as a playoff, no matter how much the talking heads what to blather on about how great the BCS is for "debate".
 
#41
#41
Tux said:
If you were a knife in the knife drawer, you would be too dull to even be the butter knife.
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Is there a duller knife than a butter knife? Or, are you saying that if I were a knife I would not even be a knife?
 
#42
#42
zjcvols said:
Agree.

They are one of the two best teams in the country.

It's that simple.
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That is based purely on opinion. Wouldn't it be delightful if this could be settled in some sort of competition designed to determine just such claims..?
 
#43
#43
therealUT said:
If Oklahoma State had not lost to Iowa State, is this even an issue?

Does Oklahoma State get a pass for playing against Iowa State the very day the players found out about the deaths of Budke and Serna?

If someone who worked for you came in and said told you that someone close to them had just died, would you hold them to the same standard that day that you usually hold them to?

Of course, this hinges on how close Budke and Serna were to the program and the players; from all accounts, though, it appears they were very close and very involved with plenty of the football players.
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That was obviously a terrible, terrible situation.

But I don't think it should give OK State a pass for losing to a .500 team.
 
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