Do you trust the federal government?

Do you trust the federal government?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 4.3%
  • No

    Votes: 112 95.7%

  • Total voters
    117

"You know, because at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members. But something needs to happen.”

Interment camps with commandant Hildebeast.
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Let’s review
I said something to Septic and you went on a tirade.
I today is the first time I started a conversation with you and honestly if you can’t see that your picking one of 2 name callers to call a child isn’t funny then that’s more a you problem than a me problem.

Now you’re pissed off for some reason. Also funny considering you asked the other guy about wanting to meet up like a middle schooler.


Try to take a few breaths and enjoy your weekend.
I have no idea what has you fired up but I’m pretty sure it isn’t me.
Vacation coming soon. Never worth it.
 
Vacation is always worth it.
I’m going Wednesday to Murphy NC you about 5 days.
Just me and Red. It’s going to be a hoot
Ehhh... the stress before you leave trying to tie up loose ends and the stress when you get back try to catch up and keep up with new stuff is brutal. Enjoy the trip with Red. Always important to get away with the just the wife for awhile.
 
Ehhh... the stress before you leave trying to tie up loose ends and the stress when you get back try to catch up and keep up with new stuff is brutal. Enjoy the trip with Red. Always important to get away with the just the wife for awhile.
Where are you going?
Fishing any?
 
Do I trust the federal government?

Judiciary - Yes.
I believe they honestly judge in accordance of their understanding of the constitution to the best of their ability. Doesn't mean I always agree with them.

Legislative - Hell No.
I can't recall the numbers with military experience at different votes off the top of my head, but the desparity of how few had served during the 2000 Iraq vote as to all the preceding wars bothers me. That's before I even consider how few actually grasp and understand everything they vote on.

Executive - No
Having a president that can get anything done without relying on executive order would sway my confidence level.
 
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Do I trust the federal government?

Judiciary - Yes.
I believe they honestly judge in accordance of their understanding of the constitution to the best of their ability. Doesn't mean I always agree with them.

Legislative - Hell No.
I can't recall the numbers with military experience at different votes off the top of my head, but the desparity of how few had served during the 2000 Iraq vote as to all the preceding wars bothers me. That's before I even consider how few actually grasp and understand everything they vote on.

Executive - No
Having a president that can get anything done without relying on executive order would sway my confidence level.

I don't see how you could have any trust in the judiciary.
 
I don't see how you could have any trust in the judiciary.
Hanlon's razor.

Admittedly, sometimes I have to trust that they're just plain stupid. Beauty of our constitution is that their stupidity can be corrected at a later time.

If I thought their shortcomings fell on the malice side of the razor, I'd lose that trust.
 
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Hanlon's razor.

Admittedly, sometimes I have to trust that they're just plain stupid. Beauty of our constitution is that their stupidity can be corrected at a later time.

If I thought their shortcomings fell on the malice side of the razor, I'd lose that trust.

I guess that's where we differ, I do believe that all too often their shortcomings do fall on the malice side of the razor.
 
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I guess that's where we differ, I do believe that all too often their shortcomings do fall on the malice side of the razor.

Ha: Who is "they"? And where is the "malice" that you think exists? If you're going to tel me the prosecution of the gangster, you're leaning on a very thin reed.

Of course the question that started this thread is dumb. What is "trust" supposed to mean?

The most untrustworthy component of the federal government right now is the Supreme Court with that corrupt, disgraceful flunky Clarence Thomas and a couple of his politicized pals.
 
Ha: Who is "they"? And where is the "malice" that you think exists? If you're going to tel me the prosecution of the gangster, you're leaning on a very thin reed.

Of course the question that started this thread is dumb. What is "trust" supposed to mean?

The most untrustworthy component of the federal government right now is the Supreme Court with that corrupt, disgraceful flunky Clarence Thomas and a couple of his politicized pals.

Yes, we all know that you are an idiot that worships at the alter of your federal overloads. You don't have to keep reminding us.
 
I don't see how you could have any trust in the judiciary.
As I sit here trying to find something, anything to trust and admire about this country, I'm coming up empty. Not one institution gives me hope and faith. Judicial, executive, legislative, FBI/CIA, CDC, medical, media, schools, etc. None of them. Never thought a man my age who served in the military and lost 2 family members in WWII could ever see his country in such a bad light, but I'm convinced that there's a reason the US is so hated around the world and referred to as the great satan.
 
I guess that's where we differ, I do believe that all too often their shortcomings do fall on the malice side of the razor.
Anyone with an open eye can see that there's distinct and blatant 2-tiered justice system in this country. If you don't have equal application of the law, then you have no laws. The judiciary is clearly a weapon now.
 
As I sit here trying to find something, anything to trust and admire about this country, I'm coming up empty. Not one institution gives me hope and faith. Judicial, executive, legislative, FBI/CIA, CDC, medical, media, schools, etc. None of them. Never thought a man my age who served in the military and lost 2 family members in WWII could ever see his country in such a bad light, but I'm convinced that there's a reason the US is so hated around the world and referred to as the great satan.

Don't confuse country with government. I still think we have the greatest country on earth, we still have enough men that would stand up when needed (barely), we are still a kind and generous country. Our government however is not representative of those qualities that make this country great.
 
Ha: Who is "they"? And where is the "malice" that you think exists? If you're going to tel me the prosecution of the gangster, you're leaning on a very thin reed.

Of course the question that started this thread is dumb. What is "trust" supposed to mean?

The most untrustworthy component of the federal government right now is the Supreme Court with that corrupt, disgraceful flunky Clarence Thomas and a couple of his politicized pals.
I think your skinny jeans may be a bit too tight. Or the pink hair dye has caused some brain damage.
 
I guess that's where we differ, I do believe that all too often their shortcomings do fall on the malice side of the razor.
Probably all for naught anyways in regards to our government.

You probably already know what I'm about to blather about.
Nothing short of a miracle what the founding fathers of the Continental Congress pulled off. They had a contemptuous disdain for the common man's intellectual capacity to actually elect representatives that served their best interest. Thank you Jefferson. Many of them thought we were going to immediately give our independence away by putting the vote in the hands of the people.

The electoral saved us from the Tyrany of the Masses only for so long as voting requirements could be kept stringent.

Even after the party system developed, from presidential to congressional the csndidates campaigned to educated voters on the merits of their own appeal and hardly ran smear campaigns. Almost like a taciturn truce of sorts with the realization that an ill informed voters base couldn't elect a functional government. Thank you stringent voter requirements.

But alas the voter requirements were steadily lowered, the voters less informed, and the candidates increasingly made unrealistic promises while running smear campaigns.

I've been told that the Bush/Clinton election broke the modern day Overton Window on presidential smear campaigns. I don't know how accurate that is, but I know despite the voter base and participation in the presidential elections increasing, participation at state levels has steadily fallen in comparison. The candidates have increasingly campaigned by appealing to the lowest common denominators to the stupidest voter base we've ever had as social media has exasperated everything.

Thank God for the electoral compromise. We made it about 200 years longer than many of the founding fathers thought we would. Just as they feared though, the stupidity of the masses was too much to overcome.

All that to say, I think the Judiciary Branch is the only one still capable of functioning as it was intended. I don't know how we fix the other two with most the voter base hardly participating at the state level and making their presidential decisions off 140 character tweets.
 
Don't confuse country with government. I still think we have the greatest country on earth, we still have enough men that would stand up when needed (barely), we are still a kind and generous country. Our government however is not representative of those qualities that make this country great.
When I see what our society has devolved into, I have to question if there are still "enough good men" to carry the day. It's hard to imagine that the people in the time of Noah or sodom and gomorrah were worse than what we're seeing in this country today. Yeah, I know I'm painting with a broad brush to a degree, but it certainly feels as though the US is akin to a brain dead patient. They're already done, but the body hasn't figured it out yet.
 
but it certainly feels as though the US is akin to a brain dead patient. They're already done, but the body hasn't figured it out yet.
I should have saved myself those 5 paragraphs and just said that.
 

"The amount of additional spending resulting from legislation passed between March 2020 and December 2022 is astonishing," the report released by the Heritage Foundation explains of the taxpayer-funded spending binge that amounts to "more than $57,400 dollars per household." The total amount spent in just those few frenzied months: more than $7.4 trillion.

Here are the numbers from Heritage:

  • March 2020 COVID Response – $2.22 trillion
  • American Rescue Plan – $1.9 trillion
  • Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act – $1.2 trillion
  • December 2020 Stimulus Package – $932 billion
  • Inflation Reduction Act – $565 billion
  • PACT Act – $283 billion
  • Non-Defense Appropriations for FY's 2021, 2022, and 2023 – $172 billion
  • Ukraine Supplemental Appropriations – $113 billion
  • CHIPS Act – $79 billion
  • Total – $7.464 trillion
Democrats, however, don't bear the blame for this exclusively. As Heritage notes, "Members of Congress from both parties used COVID-19 to give up any pretense of fiscal responsibility and use deficit spending to enact a panoply of new programs" and all lawmakers "must" work to "return to responsible governance immediately."


McCarthy was trash. No balls.
 
I don't see how you could have any trust in the judiciary.

What kind of bizarre, blanket statement is this? The "judiciary" is a sprawling, multi-level arm of local, state and federal government. It ranges from local traffic court judges to the current corrupt conservatives on the Supreme Court. If we we want to start with mistrust of the judiciary, I'd say we start with Leonard Leo's lengthy efforts to buy off SCOTUS conservatives--one or two of whom have disgraced themselves and the court.
 

"The amount of additional spending resulting from legislation passed between March 2020 and December 2022 is astonishing," the report released by the Heritage Foundation explains of the taxpayer-funded spending binge that amounts to "more than $57,400 dollars per household." The total amount spent in just those few frenzied months: more than $7.4 trillion.

Here are the numbers from Heritage:

  • March 2020 COVID Response – $2.22 trillion
  • American Rescue Plan – $1.9 trillion
  • Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act – $1.2 trillion
  • December 2020 Stimulus Package – $932 billion
  • Inflation Reduction Act – $565 billion
  • PACT Act – $283 billion
  • Non-Defense Appropriations for FY's 2021, 2022, and 2023 – $172 billion
  • Ukraine Supplemental Appropriations – $113 billion
  • CHIPS Act – $79 billion
  • Total – $7.464 trillion
Democrats, however, don't bear the blame for this exclusively. As Heritage notes, "Members of Congress from both parties used COVID-19 to give up any pretense of fiscal responsibility and use deficit spending to enact a panoply of new programs" and all lawmakers "must" work to "return to responsible governance immediately."


McCarthy was trash. No balls.

You think his petit, christian crazy successor is going to do better? No chance. He's already caved--because he had no choice.

I chuckle at how rubes like to pretend-worry about federal spending. They don't worry about gun violence, poverty, health care or climate change, but federal spending: Now that REALLY has the right-wingers furrowing their hairy brows!
 

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