Does Maggitt lack football durability?

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It is interesting that some guys seem to never get injured even at a high contact position. In fact, I don't remember seeing guys like walter payton, barry sanders, and emmit smith missing alot of time with injuries over their careers. Maybe my memory isn't the best though.
 
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cgbtn said:
A phrase that is becoming more and more commonplace in football is, "It was a non-contact injury.". Players are doing it to themselves. Compare Curt's weight to the offensive linemen on the 1951 NCs.
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I am just talking about science and facts. Tendons and ligaments in an athlete are no where near that of a 90 pound weakling. They do increase in size and strength with lifting. Not enough probably but they do significantly
 
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My opinion...so far...he has been all promise and no real, lasting performance. This is due to his obvious "tender nature". This year can either further confirm that...or prove me wrong. But so far...he is more cupcake than pork chop. IMHO
 
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I admit it is something I have been thinking too.....that he is just unfortunately one of those guys. It would be great to be proven wrong!
 
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TAF said:
My opinion...so far...he has been all promise and no real, lasting performance. This is due to his obvious "tender nature". This year can either further confirm that...or prove me wrong. But so far...he is more cupcake than pork chop. IMHO
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BS. Only a blind fool would call a freshman All-SEC and All-American LB in the SEC a "cupcake"...so, my guess this is a lame, juvenile attempt to intentionally provoke the masses. The coaches value him for a reason ... and not as a damn cheerleader.
 
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It is a legit thought. Some guys just aren't able to stay healthy. It is a bit premature though regarding maggitt. Hes got a sprained ankle. We'll have to look back at the end of the season to know the answer. I hope he's able to realize his potential this season
 
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I think we should all just go run into on coming traffic and get hit by a few cars from time to time. We then might be able to understand exactly what his body is put through on a regular basis.

My guess is that we would all be considered 'soft'.
 
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DenmarkVol said:
BS. Only a blind fool would call a freshman All-SEC and All-American LB in the SEC a "cupcake"...so, my guess this is a lame, juvenile attempt to intentionally provoke the masses. The coaches value him for a reason ... and not as a damn cheerleader.
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My guess is he would not say that to CM's face!
 
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Ligaments, which are very commonly injured, absolutely do not change in size or strength based on conditioning. Some players are most definitely genetically predisposed to injury. The factors involved in a particular players injury risk are too numerous to list other than to say it is absolutely true that some body types are better suited to withstand certain sports.
 
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Michael Irvin is the player I couldn't remember the last name of.

No football player is a cupcake though....even the ones who are not looking to get hit or deal out a hit...are still not cupcakes.

It is a brutal sport where injuries happen.

There is a reason though people who are older get injured easier than people who are younger. Bones density.

I do agree that this year will tell a lot more about whether he is injury prone or just bad luck....the questions will be answered.
 
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Some players just can't stay healthy ....Sean Lee for the Cowboys and Steve Emtman the former beast #1 pick come to mind...but so does Aaron Rodgers...no way to tell if Maggitt is a similar story...I say roll with it and enjoy the risk/reward.
 
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andymuffins said:
It's a legitimate question and I'm not interested in getting flamed for it.

I love the kid. He's well spoken, represents the University well, he has great football tenacity and is a wonderful teammate.

Since he's been here though he's been banged up almost the entire time. Has he went more than a month or two without being injured in some capacity? Other than a few days early in fall camp he's been limited this season as well.

How much can this team truly rely on his presence?
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Apparently, being a beast, has no bearing on the ability of said beast to overcome injuries. I'm not confidant that he plays in more than 6-7 games. I hope I'm wrong. I also hope he is diligently working towards a degree. The NFL doesn't tend to extend contracts to injury prone beasts.
 
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NEOCON said:
Michael Irvin is the player I couldn't remember the last name of.

No football player is a cupcake though....even the ones who are not looking to get hit or deal out a hit...are still not cupcakes.

It is a brutal sport where injuries happen.

There is a reason though people who are older get injured easier than people who are younger. Bones density.

I do agree that this year will tell a lot more about whether he is injury prone or just bad luck....the questions will be answered.
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For what you said about injuries to be true, there would have to be a major difference in bone density between a 20 year old and 30 year old since no one in the NFL play till 40.

I'm not buying that.
 
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NEOCON said:
Michael Irvin is the player I couldn't remember the last name of.

No football player is a cupcake though....even the ones who are not looking to get hit or deal out a hit...are still not cupcakes.

It is a brutal sport where injuries happen.

There is a reason though people who are older get injured easier than people who are younger. Bones density.

I do agree that this year will tell a lot more about whether he is injury prone or just bad luck....the questions will be answered.
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Sorry bud, bone density has nothing to do with it.

Edit: Football injuries. Bone density is a significant factor in fractures in the elderly.
 
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Exfix said:
Ligaments, which are very commonly injured, absolutely do not change in size or strength based on conditioning. Some players are most definitely genetically predisposed to injury. The factors involved in a particular players injury risk are too numerous to list other than to say it is absolutely true that some body types are better suited to withstand certain sports.
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Look like you are ortho so maybe you are spouting some facts, but I was quite certain there were some trials showing an increase in cartilaginous density and strength in adolescents and adults at the point of bone insertion who regularly participated in impact exercise vs low impact exercise (running versus swimming or biking). My impression was that the microtrauma and stress increased bone matrix and collagen deposition at the impacted joints etc

Not my area of expertise though but I am in the house
 
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Exfix said:
Sorry bud, bone density has nothing to do with it.

Edit: Football injuries. Bone density is a significant factor in fractures in the elderly.
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This I agree with for fractures. T scores shouldn't be significantly different between healthy individuals of this age group
 
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Maggitt is injury-prone, that's all there is to it. I will be very (and pleasantly) surprised if he's still healthy and playing by, say, game 5.
 
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NEOCON said:
Michael Irvin is the player I couldn't remember the last name of.

No football player is a cupcake though....even the ones who are not looking to get hit or deal out a hit...are still not cupcakes.

It is a brutal sport where injuries happen.

There is a reason though people who are older get injured easier than people who are younger. Bones density.

I do agree that this year will tell a lot more about whether he is injury prone or just bad luck....the questions will be answered.
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Lol I thought you was being sarcastic about his name
 
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fade route said:
It is interesting that some guys seem to never get injured even at a high contact position. In fact, I don't remember seeing guys like walter payton, barry sanders, and emmit smith missing alot of time with injuries over their careers. Maybe my memory isn't the best though.
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Walter Payton was high as a kite.
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
I think we should all just go run into on coming traffic and get hit by a few cars from time to time. We then might be able to understand exactly what his body is put through on a regular basis.

My guess is that we would all be considered 'soft'.
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I see your point but it's not a far fetched assumption that he may have durability issues. AJ works just as hard and he has not been hurt like CM. Many other players work just as hard and do not get injured. I am not saying CM IS soft but his durability could be called into question if he misses more time this season.
 
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Michael Irvin retired because he had thinning of the vertebrae and was told by team doctors to retire.

There are also players who have bad ankles.

Rodman had bad feet and literally had to sit out due to issues.

I am shocked that some on here actually think all players are created equal when it comes to durability.
 
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He lacks football durability and football talent. When he hasn't been hurt, he's played in 20 games and has registered a whopping 2 solo tackles per game and 2.5 total sacks over those 20 games. That's about one sack for every ten games, pretty pathetic if you ask me. It's time this guy contribute, or get on down the road.
 
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NotoriousB-I-G said:
He lacks football durability and football talent. When he hasn't been hurt, he's played in 20 games and has registered a whopping 2 solo tackles per game and 2.5 total sacks over those 20 games. That's about one sack for every ten games, pretty pathetic if you ask me. It's time this guy contribute, or get on down the road.
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He's had other big plays. The NC State game comes to mind. I don't think we should bash the guy because he's been hurt. He's a huge influence and leader on this team. The guys respect him and feed off his energy. Stats are only half the story for productive team leaders.
 
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