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Hayezb said:
to be mentioned in this ESPN piece?

I know I know, ESPN hates us. Or that seems to be the mass opinion around here. Just seems like Neyland's record of 173–31–12 deserves to be mentioned when they consider Bryant as one of the all time best at 232-46-9.

College Football's Dynasties - ESPN
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The piece is about teams that won 3 or more titles over a certain number of seasons. Neyland's accomplishments are legendary, but they do not include 3 titles within 6 or 7 years.
 
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Does anyone else know that today (12/26) is National Whiners Day? No kidding, heard it on the radio.
 
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Vol4life25 said:
3?...........you know they still have that team.....ya know ummmm the undefeated team.....uhhh i think they call them selfs Notre Dame? yeah thats it......They still have to beat those guys
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Oh you mean the team they're favored to beat? That one?
 
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Of course we should be mentioned. Tennessee has done a really ****ty job of selling the legacy of General Neyland. Hell, we didn't even have a statue of him at the massive stadium that bears his name until a couple of years ago. That's pretty sad. If you are having a serious discussion about this and you know the history of the sport, Neyland should ALWAYS be mentioned.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
Of course we should be mentioned. Tennessee has done a really ****ty job of selling the legacy of General Neyland.
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Again, the piece isn't about greatest coaches or greatest teams. It's about programs that won 3 or more titles within a short timeframe. It's not a slight toward General Neyland. Darrell Royal was one of the greatest CFB coaches ever, but he is also not mentioned in the piece.
 
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Vol4life25 said:
Is that a real quote? or did you just make it up?
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No. I wouldn't make up a quote. If I did that, then it wouldn't be a quote and wouldn't be worth posting. Most fans know by now that Bear owed his success to what he learned from Neyland. He also said, "I never beat him, but I learned a lot from playing him."
 
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Special Ed said:
"I never beat him, but I learned a lot from playing him."
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Actually, this quote is legit, but the "everything I know..." quote is made up. In fact, this legit quote is likely the source of the fictional one.
 
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I hate pieces like the one featured in this thread. The only reason that Alabama, USC, and Notre Dame fans can legitimately relate to it is because they are having some success at the moment. Otherwise, you might as well be talking about which teams had the best uniforms at the time, because it just does not matter now. I mean, Minnesota? Really? Even Miami is a shell of its former self, with no signs of ever becoming relevant again.

If you want to lament that your success five decades ago isn't being properly honored, have at it. Sounds to me, however, like your real gripe is that you aren't relevant, now.
 
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Anybody know where General Neyland is buried.If you take Jennings Street off of Central Ave (in Knoxville )turn right and approx 10 or 12 headstones down says Gen Robert Neyland on the front row facing the street. Anybody know if he is really buried there or its just a marker
 
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tennfever said:
Anybody know where General Neyland is buried.If you take Jennings Street off of Central Ave (in Knoxville )turn right and approx 10 or 12 headstones down says Gen Robert Neyland on the front row facing the street. Anybody know if he is really buried there or its just a marker
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He was but according to legend on VN he rose from the grave three days later and ascended into heaven.
 
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vollygirl said:
112 of Neyland's victories came via shutout. In 1938 and 1939, Neyland's Vols set NCAA records when they shut out 17 straight opponents for 71 consecutive shutout quarters. His '39 squad is the last NCAA team in history to hold every regular season opponent scoreless.

Saban is brilliant, I give you that. But he will never catch Neyland. Like I said, different times.
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vollygirl, I know that it is not your fault but I wish that persons who had originally published that first sentence as “fact” had more carefully examined the record books. I understand that it is human nature to see a “zero” in the opponents’ score column and assume that the opponent lost. In the era that Neyland coached, however, that can be an erroneous assumption.

I have triple-checked the data on this point (see Tennessee Historical Scores) and the truth is that Neyland-coached Tennessee teams defeated opponents by shutout 107 times. They also held opponents scoreless in 0-0 ties six times: 1928 (Kentucky), 1932 (Vandy), 1936 (Ole Miss & Alabama), 1937 (Duke) and 1948 (Kentucky). Ultimately, Neyland held 113 opponents scoreless, which is more than half of the 216 games that he coached at Tennessee.

To further expound upon the achievements of the 1939 team, the 1938, ’39 and ’40 teams collectively shut out 25 of their 30 regular season opponents, an astonishing total in any era.

As for the Alabama series, Neyland was 12-5-2 vs. the Tide, including shutout victories in 1929 (6-0), 1931 (25-0), 1938 (13-0), 1939 (21-0) and 1946 (12-0). He was also 5-0-2 vs. a young Bear Bryant. Neyland-coached Tennessee teams shut out Bryant-coached Kentucky teams in 1946 (7-0), ’49 (6-0), ’50 (7-0), and ’51 (28-0), and played them to a scoreless tie in 1948. For the record, the Bryant era was and, forever more, will be the highwater mark of Kentucky football.
 
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tennfever said:
Anybody know where General Neyland is buried.If you take Jennings Street off of Central Ave (in Knoxville )turn right and approx 10 or 12 headstones down says Gen Robert Neyland on the front row facing the street. Anybody know if he is really buried there or its just a marker
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According to these sources (Knoxville National Cemetery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and Robert Neyland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), the General and his wife are buried at Knoxville National Cemetary.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I hate pieces like the one featured in this thread. The only reason that Alabama, USC, and Notre Dame fans can legitimately relate to it is because they are having some success at the moment. Otherwise, you might as well be talking about which teams had the best uniforms at the time, because it just does not matter now. I mean, Minnesota? Really? Even Miami is a shell of its former self, with no signs of ever becoming relevant again.

If you want to lament that your success five decades ago isn't being properly honored, have at it. Sounds to me, however, like your real gripe is that you aren't relevant, now.
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Because the Gators will never be mentioned in one similar?
 
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