Dominique Strauss-Kahn

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I know this has been plastered all over the news, and has far-reaching implications for Europe and the IMF and most of the world in effect...

But I still can't get over the head of the IMF trying to rape an African immigrant. Visual metaphor flawless victory.
 
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he's apparently assaulted a woman back in france too. clearly he's a slimeball.
 
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apparently the girl he raped lives in an apartment that only houses people infected with HIV. DKS is having a bad day
 
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I held no faith in him as either a real IMF reformer with a Road to Damascus moment nor as a French socialist. He has been described as a "chimpanzee in heat" in the French press for his notorious womanizing.

Whether it is as it reads remains to be seen. My first thought (especially in light of Julian Assange) is maybe he really did have a road to Damascus moment, and this is a set-up.

As always though, evidence from the real world will define my final opinion.
 
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If the allegations are true, he could always move to Italy and run for president there...
 
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therealUT said:
If the allegations are true, he could always move to Italy and run for president there...
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I was talking to my dad the other day who just got back from Italy... He said "If he were Italian, he would have just sealed the presidency."
 
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utgibbs said:
I held no faith in him as either a real IMF reformer with a Road to Damascus moment nor as a French socialist. He has been described as a "chimpanzee in heat" in the French press for his notorious womanizing.

Whether it is as it reads remains to be seen. My first thought (especially in light of Julian Assange) is maybe he really did have a road to Damascus moment, and this is a set-up.

As always though, evidence from the real world will define my final opinion.
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are French socialists any better than other socialists?

and if you're worried about his claiming to be a socialist while living a very bourgeois lifestyle, welcome to the real world. "Socialism" is never for the socialist, especially those who deem themselves too important to be caught up in the mundane life of the proletariat.
 
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MG1968 said:
are French socialists any better than other socialists?

and if you're worried about his claiming to be a socialist while living a very bourgeois lifestyle, welcome to the real world. "Socialism" is never for the socialist, especially those who deem themselves too important to be caught up in the mundane life of the proletariat.
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Perhaps DSK did assume the trappings of the party of Mitterrand. I might be generous to the French socialists, although I would like to think Andre Gorz still has some resonance there. Again, I have never bought his socialist credentials, as I said. I believe, in fact, he was driven to the hotel by his communications tsar in a Porsche.
 
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utgibbs said:
Perhaps DSK did assume the trappings of the party of Mitterrand. I might be generous to the French socialists, although I would like to think Andre Gorz still has some resonance there. Again, I have never bought his socialist credentials, as I said. I believe, in fact, he was driven to the hotel by his communications tsar in a Porsche.
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give a socialist power and he/she becomes a capitalist real quick, especially once he/she holds the keys to the treasury.

this is why I don't understand your hero-worship of the Castro brothers, they are bigger hypocrites than DSK.
 
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MG1968 said:
give a socialist power and he/she becomes a capitalist real quick, especially once he/she holds the keys to the treasury.

this is why I don't understand your hero-worship of the Castro brothers, they are bigger hypocrites than DSK.
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Actually Castro has been true to his politics for over 50 years.

The great success of Cuba has been its flexibility as a socialist state. They have never subscribed to Marxist dogma and theory; they have chopped and changed as the situation demanded - much as Capitalism must reinvent itself almost continuously to sustain itself.

Castro has ZERO cult-of-personality. Not one street or picture or statue of him is anywhere. As far as I know, Che has only one statue, at his grave.

I think DSK is a hypocrit. I don't know if he is a sexual predator, but if I were a betting man I would put it at 70/30 right now. Castro, however, was right: history will absolve him.
 
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you keep touting Cuba as a success

to paraphrase Inigo Montoya, "I do not think it means what you think it means"
 
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MG1968 said:
you keep touting Cuba as a success

to paraphrase Inigo Montoya, "I do not think it means what you think it means"
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How has Cuba not been a success? Especially given the antagonisms it has had to endure?
 
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utgibbs said:
How has Cuba not been a success? Especially given the antagonisms it has had to endure?
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ask the Cuban expats who live in S. Florida.

or ask the mother of Elian Gonzales why she gave her life to get her son to American soil.

if Cuba is a success, why are Cubans dying to leave?

In Cuba, Political Oppression Is A Castro Family Affair : The Two-Way : NPR

NPR and Human Rights Watch

Raul Castro's government has relied in particular on a provision of the Cuban Criminal Code that allows the state to imprison individuals before they have committed a crime, on the suspicion that they might commit an offense in the future. This "dangerousness" provision is overtly political, defining as "dangerous" any behavior that contradicts socialist norms. The most Orwellian of Cuba's laws, it captures the essence of the Cuban government's
repressive mindset, which views anyone who acts out of step with the government as a
potential threat and thus worthy of punishment.
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utgibbs said:
Actually Castro has been true to his politics for over 50 years.

The great success of Cuba has been its flexibility as a socialist state. They have never subscribed to Marxist dogma and theory; they have chopped and changed as the situation demanded - much as Capitalism must reinvent itself almost continuously to sustain itself.

Castro has ZERO cult-of-personality. Not one street or picture or statue of him is anywhere. As far as I know, Che has only one statue, at his grave.

I think DSK is a hypocrit. I don't know if he is a sexual predator, but if I were a betting man I would put it at 70/30 right now. Castro, however, was right: history will absolve him.
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"Executions?" Che Guevara exclaimed while addressing the hallowed halls of the U.N. General Assembly on December 9, 1964. "Certainly we execute!" he declared, to the claps and cheers of that august body. "And we will CONTINUE executing as long as it is necessary! This is a war to the DEATH against the revolution's enemies!"

According to the Black Book of Communism, those firing-squad executions had reached around 10,000 by that time. Sloboban Milosevic, by the way, went on trial for allegedly ordering 8,000 executions. The charge against him by the same U.N. that deliriously applauded Che Guevara's proud proclamation was "genocide."

"I don't need proof to execute a man," snapped Che to a judicial underling in 1959. "I only need proof that it's necessary to execute him!"
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Che Guevara: 39 Years of Media Hype by Humberto Fontova
 
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Almost nothing correct since my post. So, consistency rules.

The "rafters" (I forget the Spanish) are simply the 10 - 15% of every population who are "Wal-Mart stampeders". I think every culture in the world has about 10 - 15% of their population who need no marketing to feel consumer culture is the "end of history". These makes up the majority of the expats in South Florida, the rest being terrorists harbored by the US.

We could ask Elian Gonzalez how he feels about it all now:

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Elian looks as though he's been brainwashed into a good little member of the Kommunisticheskii Soyuz Molodyozhi.
 
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MG1968 said:
Elian looks as though he's been brainwashed into a good little member of the Kommunisticheskii Soyuz Molodyozhi.
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I forgot to mention, almost two million Cubans turned out on the streets demanding the return of Elian to his father.

It was a larger crowd than when Castro spoke to Havana in 1959.

Castro, with all of Cuba's faults, has demonstated unlike the former super power Russia how NOT to de-modernize in the face of complete economic collapse.

We would do well to mark his example. Our own complex civilization is on the knife's edge. A sudden spike in oil price could send it all to smash quickly. More than a few on here even are nervous about the future.
 
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