Dont blame Peterman

Next time you have a thought, just let it go.

I have a number of thoughts about your utterly and completely unfounded respect for Peterman's QB skills, but I will let them go.

I will however say, that we are fortunate to have Justin Worley. He's certainly put in his share of heroic performances over the last couple years....I just wish Dooley hadn't burned his redshirt for no reason at all.

I was proud to see us take it to the Dawgs in Athens. GBO!
 
Peterman will be fine when the game slows down for him. He has about 3 quarters of game experience. Those were in on the road SEC games.
 
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Peterman was thrown into the Florida game much the same way - and broke his finger as he was ravaged by relentless Florida blitzes. The 'debacle' began after he broke the finger and tried to play through it.

Peterman was a highly rated four star QB coming out of high school. He didn't earn that rating by choking when the lights came on. There has to be a better way to develop him than throwing him in cold to the SEC dogs to be pummeled after the starter gets knocked out by the same dogs.

There's been plenty of 4 & 5 stars that were busts. If you're getting blitzed & only have 2 or 3 seconds don't hold the ball for 5.
 
Why was it an impossible situation? Worley was getting blitzed and pressured behind the same poor OL as Peterman, not only yesterday, but in the Oklahoma game, too. This is big boy football and Peterman's our backup qb. He has to be poised and ready to go....according to how he practices it sure seems the coaches think he will be. Also, the notion that Bajakian just left him hung out to dry with his play calling is just silly to me. I saw two UT QBs getting pressured yesterday. Worley got rid of the ball quickly and on time while Peterman held the ball a count longer which let the pressure effect him much more .....that's why Justin is the starter and Nathan is his backup.

Worley has vastly more experience and feel for how each play develops. Worley was dogged last year for hanging onto the ball way too long, but has gained experience and a sense of timing with his receivers. Peterman has no experience or timing yet. He hasn't played with these guys and is trying to figure it out.
It's like starting any new job. He has football skills, but hasn't developed a sense for how everything operates. Defenses know this, so they attack him. When our O-line absolutely falls apart and he is being flattened almost every play, he can't begin to operate.
 
There's been plenty of 4 & 5 stars that were busts. If you're getting blitzed & only have 2 or 3 seconds don't hold the ball for 5.

A few exceptions don't invalidate the rule.
That four star was earned. He knows how to play. No new QB can be expected to learn and operate with no protection. He is not holding the ball unreasonably long. His line is collapsing. They are learning too.
 
A few exceptions don't invalidate the rule.
That four star was earned. He knows how to play. No new QB can be expected to learn and operate with no protection. He is not holding the ball unreasonably long. His line is collapsing. They are learning too.

I only know what I've seen.....more than once. He's not good
 
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Peterman was thrown into the Florida game much the same way - and broke his finger as he was ravaged by relentless Florida blitzes. The 'debacle' began after he broke the finger and tried to play through it.

Peterman was a highly rated four star QB coming out of high school. He didn't earn that rating by choking when the lights came on. There has to be a better way to develop him than throwing him in cold to the SEC dogs to be pummeled after the starter gets knocked out by the same dogs.

Disagree that he was "thrown" into last year's Florida game. He was challenging all summer for the starting position and he was prepared all week prior to the Florida game, in the qb room, in the film room, on the practice field. Was it a difficult situation? Absolutely. Should we have expected him the handle it better than he did, not complete 4 passes for 11 yards, 2 ints and a fumble deep in Florida territory because he botched the protection call? Absolutely.

Again, when Worley came in the second half of the Florida game last year, our offense settled down, he moved the ball and put 10 points on the board. It was a 17-7 game in the 3rd quarter so if anything, Florida changed their defensive plan/schemes to increase their pressure on a backup qb like Worley was at the time.....kinda like you're saying Georgia did yesterday with Peterman.

I understand and agree with, to some extent, your point about the ideal way to develop Peterman. I think all you can do is coach em up in practice and in the facility as best you can, give them as many reps as you can in live scrimmage situations and then turn em loose on Saturdays. From that point on its up to the player to display some poise and moxie and to perform. Nathan's been given a handful of chances now and he's just struggled about as much as I've ever seen a qb struggle.
 
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I can't be the only cat on here with PTSD after that Peterman debacle in last year's Florida game. Kid's a hard worker, has a great attitude, shows great resiliency (guarantee you Butch loves him for this), and by all accounts is a great teammate and practice player. But when the lights come on ......

You're totally not the only one. You're just the only one rational enough to take it when I jab you. I definitely don't want to appear to single you out specifically.

Like I said some of what you point out is true but I think Florida's game is still clouding your judgement a bit too much. NP actually started out not too bad yesterday, I think the play calling should have adjusted a bit though when he came in and even more so when the pressure started to build up.(Certainly was shocked to see him come out throwing so much and so often as well as the lack of screen/draw) I know you've seen the stats about how he was hit so many times within 2 seconds after the snap. I'm not excusing his play as I'd grade him out as a D+, just saying it was not as gruesome as the F- you want to give him.:hi:
 
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Had North come down with that ball and we score on that drive I wonder how VN would feel about peterman.
 
Had North come down with that ball and we score on that drive I wonder how VN would feel about peterman.
If you are referring to the one handed attempt, that was a Worley throw out of the endzone before the fumble. That had nothing to do with Peterman. But, you may be saying that if we won the game, Peterman's play wouldn't be under the microscope.
 
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Disagree that he was "thrown" into last year's Florida game. He was challenging all summer for the starting position and he was prepared all week prior to the Florida game, in the qb room, in the film room, on the practice field. Was it a difficult situation? Absolutely. Should we have expected him the handle it better than he did, not complete 4 passes for 11 yards, 2 ints and a fumble deep in Florida territory because he botched the protection call? Absolutely.

Again, when Worley came in the second half of the Florida game last year, our offense settled down, he moved the ball and put 10 points on the board. It was a 17-7 game in the 3rd quarter so if anything, Florida changed their defensive plan/schemes to increase their pressure on a backup qb like Worley was at the time.....kinda like you're saying Georgia did yesterday with Peterman.

I understand and agree with, to some extent, your point about the ideal way to develop Peterman. I think all you can do is coach em up in practice and in the facility as best you can, give them as many reps as you can in live scrimmage situations and then turn em loose on Saturdays. From that point on its up to the player to display some poise and moxie and to perform. Nathan's been given a handful of chances now and he's just struggled about as much as I've ever seen a qb struggle.

OK, but I'll reserve judgement. I don't think we can fairly judge a guy playing with a broken finger or no offensive line protection and relentless blitzes instantly crashing every play. I'de like to see what happens when he has reasonable protection and some experience. I don't know if you happened to see the many spring practice videos with all the QB's throwing identical passes, but Peterman was clearly the most accurate passer. He was really the only one who consistently hit the long ball accurately and had a great touch placing every type of throw right where a receiver wants it in stride.
 
Here it is in a nutshell. Peterman's first action was last year against Fla. He was awful. He was in the game for 24:20 of the clock ( little less than a half ) , and actually on the field for 8:54. How much of that time that his thumb was broken, we don't know. He wanted to play, broken thumb or not.

His second meaningful action was at Georgia this past Sat. He was in the game for 12:19 of the clock ( Little less than a quarter ), and actually on the field for 5:21. So, in 2 games, in a hostile environment, he has logged a total of 36:39 on the game clock, while being on the field himself for 14:15. The other 22:24, the other team had the ball.

In the Georgia game, he started his first possession at the U.T. 41 yard line, ate up 3:08, got 2 first downs, hit Malone on a nice 14 yard pass on 3rd and 13 for one of them, and drove the team 38 yards to the Georgia 21 where he and Marlin Lane fumbled an exchange (I don't know which player is to blame, and don't care) .

On his second possession, Peterman started on his own 9 yard line, got a first down, but then had the grounding call on the second set of downs, which the team couldn't overcome.

On the third possession, Peterman took over at the U.T. 20, made one first down, and then had to punt.

A total of 14:15 actually on the field , in a most hostile environment, with virtually no experience, is not the most accurate way to judge someone's potential. When Peterman gets accustomed to the speed of the game, and is able to play against lesser opposition to build his confidence, then I could better judge his abilities.

I was on here last year, and the year before, taking up for Worley, and comparing his stats against Bray's in the Vandy game, and saying that Dooley should have played Worley in the second half. I defended Worley's arm strength, and said that he was a deadly accurate passer in high school, and needed only enough game experience on the college level. I said that he had only played about 1 year (12 games)coming into this year, even though he was a senior. I said that he would be the starter last year, and again this year. If I knew how to find posts that old, I would put up the exact words.

I have defended Matt Darr on here, saying that he had plenty of leg in high school, and was having some issues with the way that he dropped the ball, and with his follow through, and that he wasn't getting the nose of the football up in the air . I said that he had the talent, and would get it corrected. I believe that Peterman has talent, and the coaches must also think that. He needs some cupcake opponents to get experience and build confidence gradually. Did you ever notice that the NFL tries to bring along quarterbacks very slowly, rather than throwing them to the lions? Occasionally, a superstar comes along, who can handle it. Most of the time , they hold a clipboard.
 
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Not sure if serious

No I'm not serious it's sarcasm. The thread was in reference to a fumble that wasn't on peterman like everything else he did was ok. He hasn't made a positive play & I see nothing that makes me think he ever will. He looks lost, panicked, clueless, etc
 
Ok. I'll bite.

How well did you expect the guy to do with limited snaps in practice and almost no in game experience. Add in our offensive line and UGA blitzing every play?
 
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