Don't get too wrapped up in stars

#6
#6
sjt18 said:
Not to rain on your example since several of those other guys disappeared.... but there's really no telling how good JC could have been surrounded by the talent McCoy has played with.
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he was always going to be limited by up and down accuracy and having to cut down the real options severely.
 
#8
#8
sjt18 said:
Not to rain on your example since several of those other guys disappeared.... but there's really no telling how good JC could have been surrounded by the talent McCoy has played with.
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Also, wonder how good Colt would have been if he'd gone through 4 different offensive systems and as many OC's?
 
#10
#10
Position #1 led the Jets to the playoffs yesterday, was a 5 star, and left early for the draft...sometimes it's miss on the stars...Sanchez is a validation of when it works and McCoy of a missed evaluation.

Dudleys87 said:
None really standout to me...
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...Dudley dude your hard to impress.
 
#11
#11
Exceptions not the rule....another guy craving the 2* character guys....
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#13
#13
MboroVol said:
Exceptions not the rule....another guy craving the 2* character guys....
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Nope...if so then we would be projected as #1 next year for church league flag football if all was about character...just was comenting on the original posters suggestion...nobody mentioned #1.
 
#14
#14
Stars do not mean as much to me as the offers received from programs. A lot of offers from several top programs usually means a guy has talent. If coaches think he can play, then he is probably pretty good. I trust that more than Rivals or Scout. It is nice to see 4 or 5 stars beside a players name but many factors go into the success of a player; how hard he works, the system, the talent level around him, attitude, and coaching stability. Look at how many running backs and quarterbacks excel in the pros from small schools because they work hard, study film, and don't necessarily play well in college because they do not rely on the talent around them. Colt McCoy has a very talented team around him as does Tim Tebow. Would either of them been as great at LaTech? It is always easier when you have more talent than other teams. Look at how Tebow's numbers declined after Harvin and others left.
 
#21
#21
What a letdown Dom Natale was, at Rutgers too.

But Pro-Style QB rankings are much different than RB/WR/DE, positions where raw athletic ability plays a much greater role.
 
#25
#25
Let's do a little logic 101. The position of those who defend the rivals rating system (i.e., who generally believe it's better to get 4 and 5 star guys than 2 and 3 star guys) is not that all 4 and 5 star guys are going to be better players than 2 and 3 star guys. The position is rather that a greater percentage of 4 and 5 star guys become college stars than 2 and 3 star guys (and therefore, the more 4 and 5 star guys you get on your team, the more likely your team is to have a greater number of college stars). You don't refute this position by toting out a 3 star guy who made good (a la Colt McCoy) and saying "Well, how 'bout this fellow. He wasn't rated very high and he did well for himself." That's a fine argument if the position had been the former position (i.e., no 3 star guy could ever out perform a 4 or 5 star guy), but it's a non-starter against the second position (i.e., generally speaking, a greater percentage of 4 and 5 star guys pan out than 2 and 3 star guys). The way you refute the second position is showing that a greater percentage (not number) of 2 and 3 star guys become college stars than 4 and 5 star guys. I have yet to see anyone make that argument, and until they do, I'm going to believe that it's better for Tennessee to get 4 and 5 star guys than 2 and 3 star guys.

Think about it this way: Suppose you have to choose to believe one of two weather forecasts and all you know is that one forecast is correct 80% of the time, and the other forecast is correct 40% of the time. Wouldn't you opt for the 80% forecast? That doesn't mean that there aren't going to be times when the 40% forecast is correct and the 80% forecast incorrect. But it doesn't follow from that that you should start going with the 40% forecast instead of the 80% forecast.
 
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