Dooley, Hart, Cheek, Gruden, Petrino, Fulmer

#51
#51
VolsSportsFan said:
Bringing Fulmer back would be a huge mistake, almost as big as bringing Dooley back another year. Even if you think he should have never been let go, I still believe by now he would have been let go anyway. The SEC passed him by.
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The SEC passed him by..LOL stupid statement

Bill Snyder went in 2004 4-7 and 05 7-6 and then retired and some jumped for joy...

Some said the Big 12 had passed him by!

KS fan...Bringing Snyder back would be a huge mistake

Where is he and the team at now?
 
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#52
#52
I would go after Gary Patterson! TCU may lose 6 games this year which would not be a sexy hire. But he has proven he can build a program into a BCS Bowl quality team. TCU had the top ranked Defense in division one football for 3 or 4 yrs in a row. TCU was 4 and 0 starting the year and then kicked off it's starting QB because of a DUI arrest. They have since gone 1-4. Image a head coach that punished star players for doing wrong. What a concept.
 
#54
#54
volmaverick said:
The SEC passed him by..LOL stupid statement

Bill Snyder went in 2004 4-7 and 05 7-6 and then retired and some jumped for joy...

Some said the Big 12 had passed him by!

KS fan...Bringing Snyder back would be a huge mistake

Where is he and the team at now?
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Synder was not fired. He retired. Fulmer let himself and the team down and fit fired. No thanks.
 
#56
#56
volfanecs said:
Cough...152-52...cough...NC....cough.....1 year removed from SECG...cough. I like the coughing game. lol
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Yet we had to start two walk on o linemen in 09 because he had gotten too lazy in recruiting. It was time for Phil to go when he went. I appreciate what he did for us, but to pretend that he was holding up his end at in the last few years of his tenure is crazy. His complacency cost him, and started or road to where we are now. He's responsible for a title, and he's responsible for letting it all slide down the sh!tter.
 
#57
#57
volmaverick said:
The SEC passed him by..LOL stupid statement

Bill Snyder went in 2004 4-7 and 05 7-6 and then retired and some jumped for joy...

Some said the Big 12 had passed him by!

KS fan...Bringing Snyder back would be a huge mistake

Where is he and the team at now?
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If he can bring back Cutcliffe to do all the heavy lifting and actual coaching for him, it might work. As it is, I don't see that happening for Phil a third time.

The SEC didn't pass him by so much as it buried him once Bama, Florida, and Georgia caught up with him.

The man couldn't even meet his own expectations for the program. Instead of progressing and getting better, he tried to lower expectations.

"8-4 is OK at TN".

"This place is just bricks and mortar".

Only a damned fool would want Fulmer back.
 
#58
#58
JonGrudensAgent said:
If he can bring back Cutcliffe to do all the heavy lifting and actual coaching for him, it might work. As it is, I don't see that happening for Phil a third time.

The SEC didn't pass him by so much as it buried him once Bama, Florida, and Georgia caught up with him.

The man couldn't even meet his own expectations for the program. Instead of progressing and getting better, he tried to lower expectations.

"8-4 is OK at TN".

"This place is just bricks and mortar".

Only a damned fool would want Fulmer back.
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JonGrudensAgent
:lolabove::lolabove:
 
#62
#62
fade route said:
This post is so full of absolute lunacy that I don't even know where to begin. Homie, Gruden is not, was never, and never will ge the coach at UT, and it has nothing to do with Cheek. It has to do with the fact that he has no desire to coach in college, he is an NFL guy. Secondly, the notion of Fulmer coming in as an interim is laughable. Why on earth would he do that for 2 games, only to be told thanks and see ya in less than a month? Good grief, go back to bed.
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Fade, you are losing the plot. Your e-cred LIKE meter has been going at a much slower clip of late. Gruden has / had real interest.

I just said I would make Fulmer interim today. I didn't say he would take it. I actually would have made him interim after KY last year, but we are where we are.

I think Saturday was a real blow to the program. I think it might have damaged interest from Plans B and C (whoever they might be). That was the worst loss by TN in a very long time.
 
#64
#64
saxvol said:
cough, cough, Wyoming cough.....man people have short memories we were awful under CPF his last few years.
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You know how the fulmerites are, they have someone to divert the attention of how bad fulmer was, so now they are gonna try spin how great he was.. goet over it fulmerites.. your boy is gone just as he should of been 5 years before it happened, and he aint coming back.. geez..
 
#65
#65
saxvol said:
cough, cough, Wyoming cough.....man people have short memories we were awful under CPF his last few years.
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Wyoming came after the man was fired. The team loved the man, they were down, everyone was in tears. Yeah, let's go out and win a football game for a college who fired their winningest Football head coach. NOT.
 
#69
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GKSS 61 said:
After being forced out, I don't see Coach Fulmer coming back.
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volfanecs said:
No....firing him was a huge mistake.
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The way they handled it was a mistake, NOT firing him..

Merlot said:
People talking down about Fulmer are backpack meth forest gump alabama trolls. SUCK IT.
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So telling the truth about Phil makes one a "backpack meth forest gump alabama troll"..... :crazy:
Sounds like someone doesn't like hearing the truth about ole Phil huh?

Merlot said:
BRING FULMER BACK
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God, will you quit panicking.. Some of you act like little girls..



I appreciate what Phil did for UT football but one national championship DOES NOT buy you a lifetime gig as UT head football coach.. It just doesn't..

I'll give him a pass for getting complacent and losing his motivation.. It happens to the best.. I've heard it said, it's more fun building it than it is keeping it there..

My problem with Phil, other than I think his time has passed, is that he has CHOSEN to take ZERO responsibility for the descent into the abyss UT football finds itself in now...

He had his time.. He had a good run but IT'S OVER.. Let him ease off into the sunset and spend his buyout.... PLEASE..

Chill people.. Let things play out.. It's an exciting time right now.. I believe we are getting ready to get a really good coach...
 
#70
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
I'll take being one play away from the SECC than being 0-5 the last three years.
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All that means is Dooley sucks. Not that firing Fulmer was a mistake. When the next coach wins the SEC, it will be clear that firing Fulmer was the right decision.
 
#71
#71
bnhunt said:
One word: Wyoming
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Wyoming = Hambone's loss

tvolsfan said:
All that means is Dooley sucks. Not that firing Fulmer was a mistake. When the next coach wins the SEC, it will be clear that firing Fulmer was the right decision.
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Well, at least Kiff jumped ship so we could accelerate the process of getting to coach #3. :ermm:

I'm a Grudenite. But I think he might be the only real homerun hire Tennessee can make at this time. I'm now worried that letting Dooley hang around to lose to Mizzou has really deflated other interest. I think it really has made Hart's job tougher.
 
#72
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tvolsfan said:
Really? I'm pretty sure we have the exact same number of SEC championships over the last few years as we did over the 10 year period that preceded it.
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I'm pretty sure Fulmer had almost as many SEC wins in '05 and '08 as we've had in the 4 years since he was fired.

I'm not in favor of bringing him back, but lets not pretend hindsight says it was the right move.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I'm pretty sure Fulmer had almost as many SEC wins in '05 and '08 as we've had in the 4 years since he was fired.

I'm not in favor of bringing him back, but lets not pretend hindsight says it was the right move.
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Hindsight says he should have been fires after 2005.
 
#74
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
This kind of thinking is just stupid after four years of hindsight.
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No it isn't. How easily you forget. Fulmer was on the downhill slide since winning the NC. It was evident in 2005 and accelerated from there. He started the mess and Hamilton exacerbated it.

If Fulmer is such a great coach, why hasn't anyone hired him?
 
#75
#75
I would only be in favor of Fulmer's return if we cannot find a big name coach who is worth the money he demands, i.e. a Gruden type hire.

I'd rather have Fulmer than Strong, Cutcliffe, or any other lesser coach. At least Fulmer loves UT and would require less money.

Everyone parrots the same tired talking-points against Fulmer, as if they were certain fact, but nothing can be further from the truth.

1. Fulmer lost his fire? Lost his drive?
What is the support for this? Do any of you have priveleged access to Fulmer's mental life? Not likely. Thus this point is preposterous.

2. Fulmer made our program decline? The game "passed him by"?
College football is cyclical. We were entering a downturn as other programs were becoming better. In retrospect, it was VERY hasty to fire Fulmer ONE year after winning the East and nearly the SECCG. Some of the recruiting classes near the end were disappointing, but no more disappointing than some other recent classes. We got impatient and now we are suffering through true mediocrity with Dooley.

3. Wyoming?
This game was the week after Fulmer was fired. Nobody was up or motivated for that game, and why would they be? If you think this is actually a good argument against Fulmer then I question your reasoning abilities. Had Fulmer not been fired at that time, Tennessee easily beats Wyoming and goes to a bowl game that year, setting up a potential winning season. Apparently our administration has settled with far lower expectations than that with Dooley. But, of course, some are so vapid as to assume that the simple mention of the word "Wyoming" is a knock-down argument against Fulmer's coaching abilities. Pitiful.

Fulmer is not the ideal hire by any stretch of the imagination, but he actually would not be as awful as some here think he would be. Nor was he as bad near the end of his tenure as some here would suggest.
 
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