Dooley's Recruiting Practices

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jholland73 said:
I dont think that a player like Janzen Jackson or even Tyler Bray for that matter, would have La Tech on their list of schools.

Listen im not saying that if he doesn't get all 5* recruits and we dont land a #1 class that he is a failure. I am just saying that, do you guys think that he will be able to pull in quality players with his background?
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He recruited for LSU's nat. champ. team, & their solid teams around '03 as well. I wouldn't worry about it till it becomes something that needs fixin'.
 
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jholland73 said:
seeing as where he came from?
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Where would that be? He grew up around the Georgia program, played for Virginia in a season where they were ranked No. 1 in the country for a month, and has been an assistant at LSU and in the NFL.

Derek Dooley knows his way around football talent, I am quite sure.
 
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Is LT our recruiting coordinator now? Haven't seen anything and was wondering who was working closest with CDD.
 
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sjt18 said:
Dooley is never going to give the info like CLK did. Not through press releases. Not through "leaks". We will know who he is recruiting either when they tell the world or commit.

I don't know if he's any good or not. But based on his style, I don't expect we will know for awhile. Kiffin wanted to run a circus with dancing elephants... whatever needed to get attention. Dooley runs it like a covert military operation.
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whish I prefer anyway. mush better than that chest-thumping egotistical kiffin.
 
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Another thing that's big change from LK....CDD seems to go for more than just natural god-given talent, he likes guys with some smarts to go along with it. Don't get me wrong, if there is an elite 5* talent that's dumb as a box of rocks and likes TN I think CDD goes for him, but if given a choice between a 4* natural athlete that needs an adult literacy program or a 3* that works hard and has some smarts, I think CDD goes 3* every time.

A little less flash and a lot more going on upstairs can only be a good thing for a program that's had a hard time with player stability for the past several years.
 
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Preds&Vols said:
Another thing that's big change from LK....CDD seems to go for more than just natural god-given talent, he likes guys with some smarts to go along with it. Don't get me wrong, if there is an elite 5* talent that's dumb as a box of rocks and likes TN I think CDD goes for him, but if given a choice between a 4* natural athlete that needs an adult literacy program or a 3* that works hard and has some smarts, I think CDD goes 3* every time.

A little less flash and a lot more going on upstairs can only be a good thing for a program that's had a hard time with player stability for the past several years.
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+1

I think that if you find a team that has great Chemistry you will be hard pressed to stop them. My opinion is that CDD is looking for players that are going to make UT a smarter and more stable program. If it takes us a few years to get going... I am fine with it but I don't believe that will be the case.
 
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We won't know about him as a coach or recruiter till sometime this season. I think if he is successful as far as coaching, UT is a university that recruits itself but you need recruiters who can close out the deal. The bad news is we've got a lot of issues at multiple positions as far as depth and I'm sure some of the negativity left over from the Kiffin era still exists in the locker room. If he has a mediocre but promising season like Kiffin, he will do great recruiting.

I don't get it why people have to be so quick to side on one side of the fence or the other before the guy has coached a game. It's hard form an informed opinion when there is so little information to support Dooley as a success or failure at this level as a coach or a recruiter.
 
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People seriously need to stop worrying about CDD's credentials. The man was the Recruiting Coordinator @ LSU under Saban when they pulled in some unreal classes. Also, if you read any of the news coming out of Junior Days, it seems as though the kids that were there came away very impressed, not only by UT's facilities and traditions, but also by the new coaching staff...It's early in the recruiting game and I'm sure CDD is getting everything in order and reviewing game film of potential recruits when he's not out on the field for Spring Practice...Recruiting will heat up this summer as HS camps get under way and offers start getting handed out...he will go after the top guys for the program.
 
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jholland73 said:
I dont think that a player like Janzen Jackson or even Tyler Bray for that matter, would have La Tech on their list of schools.

Listen im not saying that if he doesn't get all 5* recruits and we dont land a #1 class that he is a failure. I am just saying that, do you guys think that he will be able to pull in quality players with his background?
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Tyler or Janzen wouldnt have Tulane on their list either ,Tn has too much history and have put alot of players in the NFL and thats why you have a chance to recruit 4 and 5* at Tn.It has nothing to do with DD coaching at La Tech and him not getting 4 or 5* there.Its the name of the school that cant get those players there.
 
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jholland73 said:
I dont think that a player like Janzen Jackson or even Tyler Bray for that matter, would have La Tech on their list of schools.

Listen im not saying that if he doesn't get all 5* recruits and we dont land a #1 class that he is a failure. I am just saying that, do you guys think that he will be able to pull in quality players with his background?
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evidently you just decided to start a post without even doing any background search on CDD.all you wanna see is that he was the HC of La.Tech.
for all the info that has been put out on CDD.i would have imaged that you would have seen a little of it.:cray:
 
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tnvols72 said:
Tyler or Janzen wouldnt have Tulane on their list either ,Tn has too much history and have put alot of players in the NFL and thats why you have a chance to recruit 4 and 5* at Tn.It has nothing to do with DD coaching at La Tech and him not getting 4 or 5* there.Its the name of the school that cant get those players there.
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Plus LaTech is smack dab in the middle of SEC country with Big 12 country not far away; the big schools will always hand pick the best talent. Its not like Boise state where there are no schools around for hundreds of miles
 
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Preds&Vols said:
Another thing that's big change from LK....CDD seems to go for more than just natural god-given talent, he likes guys with some smarts to go along with it. Don't get me wrong, if there is an elite 5* talent that's dumb as a box of rocks and likes TN I think CDD goes for him, but if given a choice between a 4* natural athlete that needs an adult literacy program or a 3* that works hard and has some smarts, I think CDD goes 3* every time.

A little less flash and a lot more going on upstairs can only be a good thing for a program that's had a hard time with player stability for the past several years.
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I disagree.

I think this is a misconception and we all know perception is reality.The perception is Dooley is going after lower ranked players who have higher intellect. thats False. Dooley has UT in it for the same players every other coach is pursuing

these are all the same guys that Kiffin, Meyer, and Saban are going after. there's no tremendous change in philosophy.
 
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volstuff37641 said:
evidently you just decided to start a post without even doing any background search on CDD.all you wanna see is that he was the HC of La.Tech.
for all the info that has been put out on CDD.i would have imaged that you would have seen a little of it.:cray:
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Its not about DD its about the minds of these kids today, all they are gonna see is he used to coach LaTech. They werent old enough to watch football when he was working the mojo at LSU.
 
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UTBuff37 said:
Actually if you go to ESPN and look at the players who are considering us you wouldn't believe the list that have us in their Top 5. These players aren't just 2-3* players, but I'm sure a few might be, but I would say 90%+ are 4-5* players. Also within the past couple weeks I have read more and more players saying how they like the staff, program, and facilities. Kind of slow start at first, but we're actually looking pretty good now man.
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yeah considering doesnt mean anything.
we had a bucnh of people considering us last year that didnt commit
 
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jholland73 said:
Its not about DD its about the minds of these kids today, all they are gonna see is he used to coach LaTech. They werent old enough to watch football when he was working the mojo at LSU.
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it seems no matter what evidence is put in front of you to completely dispute and disprove your initial inquiry (disguised opinion) you come back with the same negativity.

there's really no point in having a discussion if one person in the conversation isnt listening.
Its pretty clearl you did not make this thread with an open mind. you arent/werent looking for the facts
 
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jholland73 said:
Its not about DD its about the minds of these kids today, all they are gonna see is he used to coach LaTech. They werent old enough to watch football when he was working the mojo at LSU.
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You lump a whole bunch of kids into a very small pot there.

Some kids want a guy who is young and brazen. Some kids realize they need an adult. Some kids want a buddy. Some want a fire brand.

The hard part for a recruiter isn't finding talent. The hard part is finding talent that responds to you.

I have no idea how DD will do. However I do know that the minds of all kids aren't the same. Some kids will relate to him and his staff... who knows if it will be enough.
 
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