Draft analyst on Hooker

[JoAllan]

I am curious but why don’t you think Hooker can make it as a starter in the NFL?

For starters you got to be accurate…….well crap.

Ok, we’ll now days you need to be at least somewhat mobile……..dang.

Ok, Ok you certainly need to be able to throw the deep ball…….shoot.

Alright but you absolutely have to be able to read a D and make good decisions……..well heck.

I got this…..he must be able to be in-sink with his receivers and put the ball where ONLY they can get it………crap.

He has to be able to learn a new system and operate it very efficiently…….dang.

He’s got to be able to stay calm under pressure and not make mistakes…….well freak.

Alright……he seriously must be able to run a good 2 minute O…….well daggum.

He has to be able to become a leader and actually lead the team by himself if need be……dang it.

Alright now, he’s got to become good in ALL games, not just big ones……..OK I give up I simply can’t see why he cannot!!!!

 

[Stonewall83]

People drool over arm strength…..

 

[JoAllan]

People drool over arm strength…..

Psh…………who needs arm strength?

It’s Halloween weekend, the grandkids are staying over. They are asleep and their candy buckets are all alone on my counter.

 

[VolBalls33]

Comparing Josh Allen to Milton just doesn't cut it for me. Allen had 28 TD(44 total in 2 seasons) his first year at Wyoming as the starter. Milton has 7 total so far in his collegiate career at UT and Michigan. Their size is almost exactly the same and both have cannons for arms. That's where it ends.

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

You got the Josh Allen call right, so if you are saying this about Milton, he might be someone to watch next year.

He also said Dobbs would be a superstar QB in the NFL. He's wrong way more than right, he's wrong about this one too.

 

[RockyTopTexas]

Not really. He was decent at best.

Yea but you didn’t play ncaa 14 with updates rosters… duh

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Just like Brad Kaaya and Antonio Callaway were supposed to be big time NFL talents. And let’s not forget that Dobbs was supposed to win multiple Super Bowls and would one day be considered the GOAT. The vast majority of your NFL predictions are garbage.

There is no accurate way to predict who will be successful in the NFL. Look at Johnny Manziel, Tim Tebow and Jamarcus Russell. Even Tee Martin. Most thought all of those guys would be stars in the NFL. Hooker has all the tools to be an NFL QB.

Well if you're gonna mention my misses, then why not my hits as well? Sure I was wrong about Antonio Callaway, but look at the rest of my top players in the 2018 draft. D4H's 2018 NFL Draft Prospect Rankings

(All-Pro Caliber Players)

1. RB Saquon Barkley (Penn State)
2. QB Josh Allen (Wyoming)
3. WR Antonio Callaway (Florida)
4. CB Minkah Fitzpatrick (Alabama)
5. QB Lamar Jackson (Louisville)
6. LB Leighton Vander Esch (Boise St.)
7. S Derwin James (Florida St.)
8. DE Marcus Davenport (UTSA)
9. DE Bradley Chubb (NC State)
10. RB Rashaad Penny (San Diego St.)
11. DT Tim Settle (Virginia Tech)
12. DT Vita Vea (Washington)
13. DE Arden Key (LSU)
14. CB Brandon Facyson (Virginia Tech)
15. LB Fred Warner (BYU)
16. C Frank Ragnow (Arkansas)
17. G Quenton Nelson (Notre Dame)

Not bad if I do say so myself. Just look at that top 5. I'm probably the only guy anywhere that had both Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen as top 5 overall prospects in the 2018 draft. I also hit big time on Fred Warner who was a 3rd round pick that I projected as a All-Pro talent. Outside of Antonio Callaway who was more of a character bust than a talent bust, my entire top 17 are either solid starters in the league or absolute stars. Only Tim Settle, Arden Key, and Brandon Facyson are backup level players that you could say I missed on talent-wise. Guys like Leighton Vander Esch and Rashaad Penny have had trouble with injuries but when healthy have looked like stars. And we're all seeing this year what a healthy Saquon Barkley is capable of.

Out of my top 17 players, 10 have been or will soon be All-Pros (i.e. Saquon, Allen, Minkah, Lamar, Vander Esch, Derwin, Vea, Warner, Ragnow, and Nelson). If you look at my 2018 player rankings in whole, you'll see the only superstars I missed on were Nick Chubb and Darius Leonard (and maybe Denzel Ward). Otherwise my rankings were better than just about any draft analyst as well as the actual draft order.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

He also said Dobbs would be a superstar QB in the NFL. He's wrong way more than right, he's wrong about this one too.

Look at my 2018 draft rankings. I was more accurate than just about every draft prognostication as well as the actual draft order.

If a NFL team used my rankings to draft players in 2018 they would have had the best draft class in the league. I was the only person who had BOTH Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson as top 5 prospects regardless of position. I also had draft steals like Fred Warner rated in my top 15 overall players eventhough he went in the 3rd round.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Comparing Josh Allen to Milton just doesn't cut it for me. Allen had 28 TD(44 total in 2 seasons) his first year at Wyoming as the starter. Milton has 7 total so far in his collegiate career at UT and Michigan. Their size is almost exactly the same and both have cannons for arms. That's where it ends.

I said in 2018 that Josh Allen was arguably the greatest physical talent at the QB position to ever enter the NFL draft. So you don't have to tell me Joe Milton ain't in his class just yet. I know that. All I was doing by mentioning Allen was giving Milton credit for the fact he has similar physical tools. He's huge like Josh, got a cannon for an arm like Josh, and just as athletic. However, he hasn't shown the ability to put those tools to use in a game setting as consistently as Josh Allen did.

The only difference between me and you is the fact I believe he has a chance to eventually put those tools to use. I have not totally given up on him ever getting it. I have been impressed with his improvement from last year to this year. I'm interested to see if he can continue to improve under Huepel given another year in the system. If he does improve then my argument is simply that he has the physical capability to be as good as Josh Allen. He's not there yet. But I'm someone who believes he eventually can.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

NFL Draft analyst has puzzling evaluation of Vols QB Hendon Hooker


Draft analysis on Hooker here.

2023 NFL Draft: Scouting Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud and other top QB prospects | FOX Sports

In the summary for the top 2 players the author gives their final totals...fields has 43.5 points. He doesn't give a total for Hooker, while praising him as a top 20 draft pick, because it would be obvious what he did:

Hookers total is 43. Half a point less than Stroud....and he had to give Hooker an 8.5 for "attitude" in order to make him finish lower than Stroud....while he says absolutely nothing negative about Hookers attitude to justify his artificially low 8.5 score. The guy wrote a book about the ABCs for Christian Athletes for Petes sake, and is praised at every turn by coaches AND players for being a great leader. His attitude has been amazing by all accounts. The author HAD to deduct points from Hooker in attitude to keep him from being ranked higher than Stroud which is ridiculous...and did so by blaming it on HH being a transfer player, while simultaneously pointing out that Burrow, Fields, etc were tranfer players who have excelled in the NFL.

What a joke. He should have just said " I like Stroud more just because of (reasons?)" Rather than taking a shot at Hookers "attitude" without actually pointing out any evidence whatsoever of his attitude being less than stellar, and then somehow "forgetting" to post an overall total for Hookers score like he did the first 2 guys. Smdh..

*Btw...if he gave Hooker the 10 points he deserves for his attitude, Hookers score would be 45 ...tied with Young for FIRST place. Not in THIRD place. Good grief.

 

[DD4ME]

No GM will question Hooker's decision making. That definately includes VA. Read how it went down and you will see he was pushed out only after fighting for starts. It obviously paid off and showed the man's patience and thoughtfulness. The only luck he fell into was Pruitt getting canned and Heup getting hired. He had to fight past Heup's first choice Milton too. For those reasons I think he screams top shelf backup. Push the other guy, be patient, prepared when it's his time.

 

[Jeff Clark]

I hope my Falcons can draft HH they need a QB badly

 

[BigOrangePaddy]

NFL Draft analyst has puzzling evaluation of Vols QB Hendon Hooker


Draft analysis on Hooker here.

2023 NFL Draft: Scouting Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud and other top QB prospects | FOX Sports

Hooker has the special it factor and will do well wherever he goes. Bryce Young also has this factor. Stroud is overrated to hell and back.

And to the people saying Milton will be a better pro than Hendon....no he probably won't...he does not have 1/10th of the pocket presence and it factor that Hendon has until proven otherwise. A big arm without the intangibles means exactly diddly squat in the NFL. I would love for him to prove me wrong, but I'm just not seeing it so far.

 

[hUTch2002]

I agree and I think maybe even the analyst does but what he’s saying is GMs still seem to ding players for switching teams, even if they are doing so less than now.

Yeah you never see players switch teams in the NFL. Dinging players for switching teams once in today’s climate is dumb if it’s true.

 

[hUTch2002]

I hope my Falcons can draft HH they need a QB badly

Never underestimate the Falcons ability to screw something up. We are starting Marcus freaking Mariota this year! That alone is grounds to fire the GM.

I do remember when they traded up to the first pick to get Vick though. It was shocking and I was so excited. He was so fun to watch.

 

[Stephen Gray]

Hooker has the special it factor and will do well wherever he goes. Bryce Young also has this factor. Stroud is overrated to hell and back.

And to the people saying Milton will be a better pro than Hendon....no he probably won't...he does not have 1/10th of the pocket presence and it factor that Hendon has until proven otherwise. A big arm without the intangibles means exactly diddly squat in the NFL. I would love for him to prove me wrong, but I'm just not seeing it so far.

I wouldn’t say he doesn’t have it. I’d say he hasn’t proven it yet. He will get his chance next year. First he has to get the starting job. If he does that, then he will have proven to the coaches at least that he is who they think gives the best chance at that point. After that, every game will be an opportunity for him to show his improvement from his last one. I hope both of those guys achieve their dreams.

 

[Stephen Gray]

Yeah you never see players switch teams in the NFL. Dinging players for switching teams once in today’s climate is dumb if it’s true.

Yeah, it’s a pretty dumb reason for sure. The analyst claims it’s true, but who knows. A lot of stuff I’ve read downgrade him because of his age too, which is kind of crazy to me. He’s a QB, not a running back. Those guys often play well into their 30s or in a handful of cases even longer. You may not have a couple extra years to work with him, but you get a mature leader who is more likely to focus on the job without succumbing to the distractions that have ruined many young players careers.

 

[ThreatLevelOrange]

Hooker has the size, athleticism, accuracy, mechanics, decision making, and maturity to succeed at the next level. He’s started only 18 games in this system and is getting better each week. He calls a lot of the plays at the line.

The biggest knock on him is his age. But Levis is only a year younger.

 

[BigOrangePaddy]

I wouldn’t say he doesn’t have it. I’d say he hasn’t proven it yet. He will get his chance next year. First he has to get the starting job. If he does that, then he will have proven to the coaches at least that he is who they think gives the best chance at that point. After that, every game will be an opportunity for him to show his improvement from his last one. I hope both of those guys achieve their dreams.

Right. I agree that he definitely will have his chance to prove it.

He looked a bit rough at times again TN Martin but also had some beautiful throws and looked very smooth against Ball State. Hard to tell because of the personell and vanilla play calling in those situations.

 

[ThreatLevelOrange]

First impressions can be off. Our staff wasn’t in love with him last spring and recruited Milton to start. But the intangibles of ability to learn and work hard cannot be overlooked by the NFL. We run a system, but he runs it to perfection. That doesn’t mean he can’t run an NFL offense.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I am curious but why don’t you think Hooker can make it as a starter in the NFL?

Was going to ask the same question

 

[Stonewall83]

Psh…………who needs arm strength?

It’s Halloween weekend, the grandkids are staying over. They are asleep and their candy buckets are all alone on my counter.

It’s a factor. But it’s not the only tool. Same with velo in baseball. Guys like Maddux would dominate even more in todays game but would be less likely to get a look because everyone is in love with the radar gun.

 

[perico]

Draftwire from USA Today has Hooker going in the Top 10.

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[HuntlandVolinColo]

I like Hendon as a college QB but I don't know if he has the talent to be a high level starter in the NFL. He can definitely be a starter but I'm not sure about being a star.

Joe Milton on the other hand has Josh Allen level talent. I could see him taking the NFL by storm if he continues to develop under Huepel.

He'll be a great asset when NFL adopts the Coach Hyp Blurrrrr offense!