Duke vs. Wake Forest Round 2

#127
#127
and before you throw out MJ again, these kids don't even remember MJ as anything other than a Wizard.
 
#128
#128
volwindy said:
I hate to say it...oh wait no I don't...I told you that Duke would get this win so there wouldn't be any more bragging rights since it would be split.
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I'll be sure to remind you of that when Wake advances further than Duke in the NCAAs
 
#129
#129
wow guys, amazing performance by wake there..only losing by 10 to duke. Boy, I sure was wrong about that 8th seeded wake team, losing by JUST--guys, listen up: ONLY 10--ten points. Hells yea wake! Duke blows4life hahaha awwww yeaaa!
 
#131
#131
The NC State Unitard experiment (circa 1989) was a hit.

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#133
#133
lidderer said:
wow guys, amazing performance by wake there..only losing by 10 to duke. Boy, I sure was wrong about that 8th seeded wake team, losing by JUST--guys, listen up: ONLY 10--ten points. Hells yea wake! Duke blows4life hahaha awwww yeaaa!
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Is there anyone in here that actually thinks this guy knows what he is talking about?

Also, I would love for you to tell me how great Duke's defense played in that game, since that is where you called me out the first time. You like your stats so perhaps we can talk about the stretch when Wake hit 20 of 25 field goals, or how Wake was 61% from the field for the game. Duke won, awesome for them. Neither team played defense tonight and you can't argue that.
 
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#134
#134
emainvol said:
Is there anyone in here that actually thinks this guy knows what he is talking about?
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Nah you're right my man, you nailed it: wake came to play...err, woke up when they cut leads and then fell asleep when they went down. You epitomize the weakest kind of basketball fan: a binary-type thinking that is biased to the hilt: if team A is losing they are 'giving it away' and if team A is winning/coming-back they are 'finally waking up'.

You have no idea what transpires in a typical basketball game, and you should stop pretending to know.

Stop looking for support from random messageboarders like myself and instead attempt to understand where you are wrong from the get-go. If that's too difficult: continue pandering.
 
#135
#135
lidderer said:
Nah you're right my man, you nailed it: wake came to play...err, woke up when they cut leads and then fell asleep when they went down. You epitomize the weakest kind of basketball fan: a binary-type thinking that is biased to the hilt: if team A is losing they are 'giving it away' and if team A is winning/coming-back they are 'finally waking up'.

You have no idea what transpires in a typical basketball game, and you should stop pretending to know.

Stop looking for support from random messageboarders like myself and instead attempt to understand where you are wrong from the get-go. If that's too difficult: continue pandering.
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See edit to my post. You still can't argue what I was saying earlier because I was right, both teams played an awful defensive basketball game.
 
#136
#136
Anyone that watched the first half of that game would have noticed that Teague continually handed the ball to Williams, and Johnson looked like his hands were made of stone.
 
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#137
emainvol said:
Is there anyone in here that actually thinks this guy knows what he is talking about?

Also, I would love for you to tell me how great Duke's defense played in that game, since that is where you called me out the first time. You like your stats so perhaps we can talk about the stretch when Wake hit 20 of 25 field goals, or how Wake was 61% from the field for the game. Duke won, awesome for them. Neither team played defense tonight and you can't argue that.
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Well now you went and changed the post. Did wake play an excellent offensive game tonight? yes. Did Duke allow them to do that to some degree? Also yes. Did much of this wake run come after they were down by 20+ points? correct. Do teams often shoot higher percentages when down by giant amounts? also correct.

Duke started off amazingly, and though they did not keep that pace--keep in mind here: that pace would have meant duke would win by like 55 points, which is crazy and super crazy and nutso crazy--they prolonged that initial advantage.

This, as you probably know, is what tends to happen in college ball.

Duke won, and handily it turned out, and that was due largely in part to their early play, which was fantastic.

Wake did not simply 'wake up' at times and fail to do so at others. That would be a bad reading of the game.
 
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lidderer said:
Well now you went and changed the post. Did wake play an excellent offensive game tonight? yes. Did Duke allow them to do that to some degree? Also yes. Did much of this wake run come after they were down by 20+ points? correct. Do teams often shoot higher percentages when down by giant amounts? also correct.

Duke started off amazingly, and though they did not keep that pace--keep in mind here: that pace would have meant duke would win by like 55 points, which is crazy and super crazy and nutso crazy--they prolonged that initial advantage.

This, as you probably know, is what tends to happen in college ball.

Duke won, and handily it turned out, and that was due largely in part to their early play, which was fantastic.

Wake did not simply 'wake up' at times and fail to do so at others. That would be a bad reading of the game.
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I never said Wake woke up, I said Johnson and Teague woke up. Both of them played sloppily for the first 14 + minutes. Wake wasn't giving the game away, Johnson and Teague were.

Also, much of that great offense came in the second half. Wake was within 10 points for almost the entire second half.

In other words, don't come in here spouting off at me until you get your facts straight.
 
#139
#139
you may or may not be a fan of wake, it doesn't matter, but it sure as heck seems like you have some kind of vested interest in proving that wake is somehow better than duke. Hint: they are not. Further hint: I wish they were. Wicked secret awesome hint: understand trends in games and how they tend to basically play out.
 
#140
#140
lidderer said:
you may or may not be a fan of wake, it doesn't matter, but it sure as heck seems like you have some kind of vested interest in proving that wake is somehow better than duke. Hint: they are not. Further hint: I wish they were. Wicked secret awesome hint: understand trends in games and how they tend to basically play out.
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I am a fan of Wake, and I didn't say they were better than Duke. I have no interest in trying to prove that. Duke was the better team tonight, Wake was the better team a month ago. I was just tired of listening to announcers talk about how great Duke's defense was, because it was terrible.
 
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#141
emainvol said:
1. Also, much of that great offense came in the second half. Wake was within 10 points for almost the entire second half.

2. In other words, don't come in here spouting off at me until you get your facts straight.
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1. So duke did in fact keep them in check when they 'woke up' in the 2nd half? Huh.

2. These are not 'facts', they are subjective viewpoints on a game. But nice impression of a boring toughie: 4.3/10.
 
#143
#143
lidderer said:
1. So duke did in fact keep them in check when they 'woke up' in the 2nd half? Huh.

2. These are not 'facts', they are subjective viewpoints on a game. But nice impression of a boring toughie: 4.3/10.
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1. I don't know why that is relevant to Duke's overall defensive performance. The defense was nonexistent tonight. For the record, Wake shot better in the second half than the first.

2. 61% shooting and a 20 for 25 stretch are not facts?
 
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#144
#144
lidderer said:
I think this about sums up our talk
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Nice how you didn't quote my saying earlier that I was impressed with Duke and their ability to close that game out. Or my praise of Williams or Henderson for their contributions. You just cut out a few words that you thought would further your point.
 
#145
#145
I'm not a Wake or Duke fan. I think Duke was better than Wake tonight. I was impressed that Duke was able to hang on after blowing a 22 point lead. This was a regular season game against WAKE FOREST for 4th place in the ACC and the Duke players and coaching staff were celebrating like they'd just won the Natty. I've never seen that type of behavior from a coaching staff in my life. Even from Duke.

So congratulations to Duke for handling Wake Forest at home. Now let's see if they can keep it up for the rest of the season. Those legs do look heavy... and they've got to be emotionally exhausted. I know I was just watching from my couch.
 
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#146
emainvol said:
Nice how you didn't quote my saying earlier that I was impressed with Duke and their ability to close that game out. Or my praise of Williams or Henderson for their contributions. You just cut out a few words that you thought would further your point.
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There is a word here...it's 'moot'.
 
#147
#147
lidderer said:
There is a word here...it's 'moot'.
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You're the one calling me out and claiming I'm blinded by my bias. I'd say it's pretty obvious to everyone else here that I have either been smack talking with Duke fans, calling it like I and everyone with half a brain saw it, or giving credit to the team that won tonight for pulling it out. You wanna keep calling random people out on the internet, that's your deal. I'm sure it impresses the ladies.

Peace out, oh wise and mighty basketball god.
 
#149
#149
emainvol said:
I am a fan of Wake, and I didn't say they were better than Duke. I have no interest in trying to prove that. Duke was the better team tonight, Wake was the better team a month ago. I was just tired of listening to announcers talk about how great Duke's defense was, because it was terrible.
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I'm also a big Wake fan and agree that duke was the better team last night, but i also agree that duke didn't play great defense the entire game.
 
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