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#26
#26
Ten_Titans said:
Only 1 varsity team.

I think you can have a JV, but it isn't practical.

Who would play on our JV team? The water boys?

But I see what you are saying. A way to pull 60 kids a year.

Unfortunately it is not allowed, or practical.
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It isn't a long term solution, for sure. I'm looking for a way to quickly sign another 85 players.

I keep seeing people say it isn't allowed (and my intuition agrees) but all I am doing is begging that someone show me where the rules say that.

You also aren't recruiting anyone to play JV. My philosophy is that you recruit everyone to play "varsity" and throw everyone into a pot (including current players) and fill out the varsity roster that way. Let the JV team transfer if they want, or let them keep the schollies if they stay and the program gets canned, but you're back to a stacked 85 man squad. You could only do it once.
 
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#27
#27
jamesthesame said:
We could have a feeder program in state such as UTC.

Player A (all star) transfers to UTK from UTC.
Player A (bad link) transfers from UTK to UTC.

As long as coaches sign off on it then they will be eligible the next season right?
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What if we grew out own players in an Ag Sciences lab? Would they count against our recruiting class limit?
 
#28
#28
jamesthesame said:
We could have a feeder program in state such as UTC.

Player A (all star) transfers to UTK from UTC.
Player A (bad link) transfers from UTK to UTC.

As long as coaches sign off on it then they will be eligible the next season right?
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BJ Coleman likes this idea.
 
#29
#29
Let's use Stokely to field an NCAA Arena team. Season players there and move them to Neyland as 2nd year men. They could be Tennessee Light
 
#35
#35
OP, this is actually a pretty good thread in terms of the whole "pie in the sky" area of thread making. Actually, I almost always enjoy these sort of threads.

We used to have a JV team that played 3-4 games a year a number of years ago, back when the NCAA used to have a 105 scholarship limit (prior to the 70's, teams could offer as many scholarships as they could afford) instead of an 85 man limit. We also used to have a freshman team back when the NCAA declared freshmen ineligible for play. Basically, what you're proposing is to have a "B" team, which is actually quite popular with a lot of rich soccer clubs in Europe. While I'm pretty sure a full-fledged, scholarship JV team is highly illegal by the NCAA's standards, it's an interesting idea.

Another idea to would be for the JV/B team you're talking about play as a club team. Club teams are quite popular at schools that flat out can't afford to sponsor football as a full time sport, and they're even popular at schools that have established football programs (Ohio State, Alabama, South Carolina, and Miami (OH), to name a few). The only problem with these teams is that they are obviously non-scholarship, and thus, could not take players who would otherwise be on scholarship.
 
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#36
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daj2576 said:
It isn't a long term solution, for sure. I'm looking for a way to quickly sign another 85 players.

I keep seeing people say it isn't allowed (and my intuition agrees) but all I am doing is begging that someone show me where the rules say that.

You also aren't recruiting anyone to play JV. My philosophy is that you recruit everyone to play "varsity" and throw everyone into a pot (including current players) and fill out the varsity roster that way. Let the JV team transfer if they want, or let them keep the schollies if they stay and the program gets canned, but you're back to a stacked 85 man squad. You could only do it once.
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So has anyone really answered the question? How does we sign more than 32-35 and get away with it???
 
#37
#37
vol24/7/365 said:
So has anyone really answered the question? How does we sign more than 32-35 and get away with it???
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I don't believe anyone has answered it yet. Some have said that they feel like it isn't possible (so do I), but noone has shown me that it isn't possible.
 
#38
#38
Yeah, sadly, you being able to spell and use an oxford comma immediately sets you above 90% of the posters here. A dumb idea (really just one you didn't know about, so not dumb in that sense) eloquently worded? Not here on VN.

now if u done typed moer liek dis den may b.

but, even then the question is actually a good thought, it would be a good abuse of The Airbud Clause, but it seems there is a rule on it.
 
#39
#39
Daloth said:
Yeah, sadly, you being able to spell and use an oxford comma immediately sets you above 90% of the posters here. A dumb idea (really just one you didn't know about, so not dumb in that sense) eloquently worded? Not here on VN.

now if u done typed moer liek dis den may b.

but, even then the question is actually a good thought, it would be a good abuse of The Airbud Clause, but it seems there is a rule on it.
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Extrapolate. I am all ears.

Truth be told, you had me at "oxford comma."
 
#40
#40
daj2576 said:
The question then is, are there any rules that say a school can only have one football team?
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No. There isn't. BUT - The NCAA 'limits the number of scholarships that Division I (FBS) members schools may award in each SPORT. Football being 85. So one can have 2 teams with 40 something players.. and so on.

Bylaw 15.5.6.1 Bowl Subdivision Football. (FBS) 2013–14 NCAA Division I Manual. NCAA. p. 207
 
#41
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HazMat said:
No. There isn't. BUT - The NCAA 'limits the number of scholarships that Division I (FBS) members schools may award in each SPORT. Football being 85. So one can have 2 teams with 40 something players.. and so on.

Bylaw 15.5.6.1 Bowl Subdivision Football. (FBS) 2013–14 NCAA Division I Manual. NCAA. p. 207
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Very well, thank you for the find!

So we need to start a rugby team?
 
#43
#43
KingNick865 said:
We already have one doe.

There are technically no scholarship limits for men's rugby, so take from that what you will.
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I knew we had a rugby club (or at least that was the case when I graduated in 2002). I didn't know we had a sanctioned team.

EDIT: We don't, I think that is just a club sport after briefly reading the site.

I say we turn that into a team sport. It requires adding a female sport, but it isn't my money I am spending. Let's make rugby a full scholarship sport, and just throw the overflow from the extra recruits who don't make the football team onto the rugby team. They could practice full pads all week, then just go out and pretend to play rugby on the weekend. There is our loophole.

After a year of developmental football, I mean rugby, they "try out" for the football team and it starts all over again.
 
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