Early 2024 Republican Primary

Who do you favor as the 2024 Republican Candidate

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#51
#51
I’m not sure who I would vote for but I see at least one that needs to go away. Junior.

The Rs need a moderate that can take far right votes as the better option versus a Dem and can also grab some not so far left liberals to crossover. Nikki 2024 might be the top of the ticket that can best fo that.
 
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#53
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I’m not sure who I would vote for but Zi see at least one that needs to go away. Junior.

The Rs need a moderate that can take far right votes as the better option versus a Dem and can also grab some not so far left liberals to crossover. Nikki 2024 might be the top of the ticket that can best fo that.
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No chance in hell Nikki gets either. Far right or moderate left, neither like her
 
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tim said:
Nikki wont get the nomination. But yes, between the 2 she would. Kamala would beat her brains in if that ended up being the ticket. Total yawner
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Without a 3rd party pandering to the far right I don’t see Nikki losing any of the Trump voters plus she would do better with suburban women than Trump. But true, the GOP isn’t ready for a centrist choice. Especially if they take seats in the midterm.

The economic impact of the massive bump in the debt will be the biggest impact of the next run for POTUS. As long as interest on it is near zero it will just be a large number most voters can’t comprehend. If rates shoot up the economy will be on life support.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Without a 3rd party pandering to the far right I don’t see Nikki losing any of the Trump voters plus she would do better with suburban women than Trump. But true, the GOP isn’t ready for a centrist choice. Especially if they take seats in the midterm.

The economic impact of the massive bump in the debt will be the biggest impact of the next run for POTUS. As long as interest on it is near zero it will just be a large number most voters can’t comprehend. If rates shoot up the economy will be on life support.
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A 3-4 point jump in interest rates will cause a depression. Heck maybe even a little as 2.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Without a 3rd party pandering to the far right I don’t see Nikki losing any of the Trump voters plus she would do better with suburban women than Trump. But true, the GOP isn’t ready for a centrist choice. Especially if they take seats in the midterm.

The economic impact of the massive bump in the debt will be the biggest impact of the next run for POTUS. As long as interest on it is near zero it will just be a large number most voters can’t comprehend. If rates shoot up the economy will be on life support.
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Scary times. Look she doesn’t wind R’s watches so theoretically Kamala wins head to head but Im not sure Kamala garners much excitement on the left either. Im not sure it matters, hell they voted an elderly white dude who can barely complete a sentence and goes to bed before dark. (Winter dark)
 
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hog88 said:
A 3-4 point jump in interest rates will cause a depression. Heck maybe even a little as 2.
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A correction is near. Within four years. That's for certain. It'll be a topic for the candidates. I'm trying to time it right. We bought a year and a half ago and already gained 60k in value. Another year and a gain of similar hike and I'm on the market and renting
 
#61
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tim said:
Nikki wont get the nomination. But yes, between the 2 she would. Kamala would beat her brains in if that ended up being the ticket. Total yawner
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Kamala didn't even last until the first vote was cast in the primaries. She's not beating anyone's" brains in"
 
#62
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utvols88 said:
Kamala didn't even last until the first vote was cast in the primaries. She's not beating anyone's" brains in"
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Well I would’ve agreed until Nikki decided it would be a good idea to distance herself from Trump. I actually thought she was a decent choice a few years ago but she has shown to be a typical politician. The right doesn’t want a typical politician
 
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tim said:
Well I would’ve agreed until Nikki decided it would be a good idea to distance herself from Trump. I actually thought she was a decent choice a few years ago but she has shown to be a typical politician. The right doesn’t want a typical politician
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I can agree with that. Nikki needs to reboot if she wants to have a chance. DeSantis and Tim Scott ticket? Has the clout to speak on his reform bill.
 
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utvols88 said:
A correction is near. Within four years. That's for certain. It'll be a topic for the candidates. I'm trying to time it right. We bought a year and a half ago and already gained 60k in value. Another year and a gain of similar hike and I'm on the market and renting
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Higher interest rates may not be a huge drag on equity securities, but it will certainly be one on the economy. Debt securities should get crushed.
 
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utvols88 said:
A correction is near. Within four years. That's for certain. It'll be a topic for the candidates. I'm trying to time it right. We bought a year and a half ago and already gained 60k in value. Another year and a gain of similar hike and I'm on the market and renting
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It really all depends on what the 2022 election is looking like. If it looks like an R sweep the Fed raises rate to cripple the new administration.
 
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hog88 said:
A 3-4 point jump in interest rates will cause a depression. Heck maybe even a little as 2.
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That will be one way to kill federalism and progressivism in one swoop,,and of course anyone who has saved. Granted this is 2019 graph, so gonna be worse. Throw in little GDP growth ie stagflation, and Katie bar the door.All discretionary spending will evaporate, as well as much non discretionary will have to be reforumulated.

With 25% of fed revenue going to interest, it will be like having the worst CC rate one could find. No way out, except I suppose default and then one world currency.

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#67
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The best scenario is that massive amounts of LT US Government debt is auctioned off while the rates are near zero but spending can be limited (other than upgrading infrastructure). Spending available cash on no return entitlements just because it sits on the government’s balance sheet will lead to a financial disaster.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Higher interest rates may not be a huge drag on equity securities, but it will certainly be one on the economy. Debt securities should get crushed.
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I think you see alot of these deferments get foreclosed. Banks were dumb for pushing plans to pay a lump at the end of deferment instead of adding to life of loan.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Without a 3rd party pandering to the far right I don’t see Nikki losing any of the Trump voters plus she would do better with suburban women than Trump. But true, the GOP isn’t ready for a centrist choice. Especially if they take seats in the midterm.

The economic impact of the massive bump in the debt will be the biggest impact of the next run for POTUS. As long as interest on it is near zero it will just be a large number most voters can’t comprehend. If rates shoot up the economy will be on life support.
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I would sit the election out if she’s the choice
 
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utvols88 said:
I think you see alot of these deferments get foreclosed. Banks were dumb for pushing plans to pay a lump at the end of deferment instead of adding to life of loan.
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Not a huge problem for lending companies currently as inflated as home prices are right now. But RE can certainly crash and foreclosures would indicate there is a big problem in our consumer based economy. The cheap mortgages have pushed basic and moderate home prices to ridiculous levels. It’s hard to find a decent, detached home in west Knoxville under $200k right now. 2,000 SF homes are in the $300k+ range.
 
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tim said:
Very stout ticket.
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May not appeal to geographical biases. But the coastal elites will be voting blue no matter who the GOP rolls out. Scott would put Michigan in play... probably wouldn’t drag Illinois out of the Chicago democratic stranglehold though.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
May not appeal to geographical biases. But the coastal elites will be voting blue no matter who the GOP rolls out. Scott would put Michigan in play... probably wouldn’t drag Illinois out of the Chicago democratic stranglehold though.
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Right but may help shore up the bleeding in Atlanta and Charlotte areas
 
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