Editor-at-large for Time, called President Obama “a dick” on live TV

[IPorange]

Lol @ "a worst one"

I always laugh at the flies of "corruption." Blatant racism is blatant.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

IPO, come on. He has black friends.

 

[KiffinKiller]

IPO, come on. He has black friends.

No he doesn't. Friendship is a luxury he cannot afford.

 

[sjt18]

haha. Most of our presidents have been dicks, imo. How else do you become a politician?

The fatalism suggested by this statement is why our gov't is so corrupt. They are "dicks" because we ALL tolerate them and support them... and we believe them when they destroy good people who want to honestly discuss and address our problems... Paul Ryan comes to mind in at least a limited sense.

 

[sjt18]

He and his peoples at least campaigned their asses off to conjure up a reason before running up the national credit card to get us into a pointless military conflict. So, kudos there.

There was a point... they just never made it.

You can agree or disagree with what was done... but Saddam was an enemy of the US and a ticking time bomb. He had the will and the resources to cause us alot of problems.

I personally do not like the idea of preemptive war... but that is what Iraq was... and to that end it was successful. Saddam is not in power and a more benign gov't is.

Afghanistan and Pakistan do not appear to be headed for any such favorable ends.

Oh, and I guess you don't mind the debt that Obama has run up to grow the scope and size of gov't at the expense of our rights and freedoms, correct?

 

[sjt18]

I don't think anyone is totally "right" in politics. Believe it or not there is more than one way to do things.

There are many degrees... so I guess that would qualify as "ways" to do things. But there are only two directions... toward freedom or toward statism.... individual rights, liberty, freedom, and responsibility or "group" rights, constraint, control, and dependency.

I firmly believe that only one of those directions is good and just... it isn't the direction that the left usually wants to go and sadly that the right often wants to go.

 

[the.one.the.only]

Still think we should get some hardcore wrestler like the president in Idiocracy. Every speech should begin with "S***, I know s***'s bad and s***"

 

[milohimself]

Oh, and I guess you don't mind the debt that Obama has run up to grow the scope and size of gov't at the expense of our rights and freedoms, correct?

Yeah, like he's the first one... Or that trait being exclusive to Dems.

Give me a break. If Obama is pissing on the constitution and the public debt, then Bush II and the R's around him for eight years used it to start a diesel fire.

 

[milohimself]

There are many degrees... so I guess that would qualify as "ways" to do things. But there are only two directions... toward freedom or toward statism.... individual rights, liberty, freedom, and responsibility or "group" rights, constraint, control, and dependency.

I firmly believe that only one of those directions is good and just... it isn't the direction that the left usually wants to go and sadly that the right often wants to go.

gs catches the most flack here for being so wrapped up in his rhetoric, but you're a close second.

Firstly, the political spectrum is universally recognized and proven to be closer to a two dimensional plot rather than a linear plot, so your view is but one dimension of how the world works.

Secondly, idealism on one extreme of any spectrum is not a good thing. If you're truly advocating what you say you believe in, that would be anarchy. Unless you willingly advocate total anarchy, you are then admitting that there is a point at which too much individual freedom can exist. Any point must have attributes.

 

[sjt18]

Yeah, like he's the first one... Or that trait being exclusive to Dems.

Did not say either of those things although he has done more than most. I have often said that Progressive, big gov't statists have controlled both parties for about 100 years now. In that time, gov't has intruded in virtually every aspect of our lives AND has expanded from less than 7% of GDP to 25% or so.

Give me a break. If Obama is pissing on the constitution and the public debt, then Bush II and the R's around him for eight years used it to start a diesel fire.

Obama most certainly is "pissing on the constitution". He is doing so knowingly as he attempts to "fundamentally transform" the country.

Progressives generally believe in collective rights over individual rights... state responsibility for the welfare of people rather than individual responsibility. If you don't think he is far, far more progressive than Bush or the "R's around him" then I'm not sure there's help for you.... and that is by NO STRETCH an excuse for the ridiculous spending and constitutional abuses of the GOP.

 

[sjt18]

gs catches the most flack here for being so wrapped up in his rhetoric, but you're a close second.

Translation: you say things that I can't argue against so I would rather just attack you. You are offended because I know what I believe, I know why I believe it, and state it unapologetically. That's tough. I don't buy the absolute non-sense that there is no objective truth or superiority of some ideals over others... or that there is anything wrong with arguing for right and against wrong.

Firstly, the political spectrum is universally recognized and proven to be closer to a two dimensional plot rather than a linear plot, so your view is but one dimension of how the world works.

Yes. I am fully aware of the model. One dimension is civil liberties with the other being economic liberties. Our founders and the more libertarian (conservative/Libertarian) people today believe in maximizing both. The problem with the model is once you dispense with economic rights then you have no civil rights either... you simply have license.

Secondly, idealism on one extreme of any spectrum is not a good thing. If you're truly advocating what you say you believe in, that would be anarchy. Unless you willingly advocate total anarchy, you are then admitting that there is a point at which too much individual freedom can exist. Any point must have attributes.

No. I am not advocating anarchy... I am advocating self-governance which was how the nation operated up until the early 20th century.

 

[KiffinKiller]

Still think we should get some hardcore wrestler like the president in Idiocracy. Every speech should begin with "S***, I know s***'s bad and s***"

Jesse Ventura?

 

[sjt18]

If you haven't seen Idiocracy then you need to rent it. Really funny movie until you start thinking about how close to real life it is...

Loved the part where it says the guy couldn't convince the people that water was better for plants than Gatorade... so he finally gave up and told them he could talk to plants and they told him they wanted water.