Edwards Docked 25 points...

#3
#3
It is consistant with similar situations earlier this year but it is huge at this point and time...... I am not an Edwards fan so it doesn't really bother me but you always wonder what really happened.
 
#4
#4
The only thing I can think of is at the end of the race, Greg came up and gave me a couple of love taps to say 'good job, good race' and hopefully they find that that bent the tail of the car down a little bit," Edwards said after the race. "There are some braces bent under the decklid so hopefully that's what it is."
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interesting. i guess you can't do anything to celebrate or celebrate with your teammates anymore. depending on how hard Biffle hit him, that certainly could have been the reason.

next thing you know they will outlaw taking down your safety net before you get to victory lane because waving to the crowd is a safety violation.

remember when Mayfield had an issue similar to this when he was jumping up and down on the top of his car and lowered it below the legal limit?
 
#6
#6
It's a shame.It seems Nascar is doing this more to remain consistant when they should just say we screwed up in the past and we aren't going to take away points for unintentional incidents anymore.
 
#14
#14
i don't think it's hard to write consistent rules. NASCAR just needs to say:

"look, the penalty for X is going to X, regardless of what you do. the next time you do X, it is going to be X (worse) and so on..."
 
#15
#15
The one problem that always seems to sneak up with NASCAR is inconsistency. Whether it be in the throwing of caution flags or penalties, consistency has always been an issue with NASCAR.

I agree with Gordon in the fact that every penalty, up until Edwards', with the COT has been 100 points and a hefty fine. I would be extremely upset if I were some other team that has been penalized with the COT that much and now Edwards only gets 25. That doesn't seem fair at all... On the other hand, I would be upset as well if I were Roush and see this penalty, which has no bearing on going fast at Dover, and lose 25 valuable points in the thick of a championship run due to something that happens regularly during the course of a race.

I'd have to side on the side of Gordon and them here. If you're going to set a precendent with the COT, then follow it and don't adjust it just because it occured in the Chase.
 
#16
#16
Gotta disagree.Typical Jeff Gordon whining.
The 100 point infractions I know of were intentional. There are past unintentional height infractions also penalized at 25 points.Nascar is wrong but consistant in this case.
Caution flags are another story where Nascar officials have figured into the race outcome with their inconsistancy and indecision especially in the Busch series.
 
#17
#17
NASCAR also stated that with the COT, they are amping up the penalties that occur with the COT, intentional or not, and in this case they didn't do it.

Typical jealous of Jeff Gordon bashing. If you'll read the article, you'll see it's Jack Roush that's whining. The guy sounded like his season was over and the world was ending. Give me a break.
 
#18
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kkep48 said:
NASCAR also stated that with the COT, they are amping up the penalties that occur with the COT, intentional or not, and in this case they didn't do it.

Typical jealous of Jeff Gordon bashing.
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Unbelievable!The purpose of amping up penalties is to stop
or reduce any re-occurance. If it's unintentional,how does amping up the penalty serve any purpose?
I can't stand Jeff Gordon and his do as I say,not as I do mentality on and off the track.
 
#19
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kkep48 said:
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Typical jealous of Jeff Gordon bashing. If you'll read the article, you'll see it's Jack Roush that's whining. The guy sounded like his season was over and the world was ending. Give me a break.
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I read the article.At least Roush's whining is somewhat justified. Even the writer of the article disagree's with Gordon's whining.
 
#21
#21
Roush's whining is justified? Every time a car is too low after post-race inspection a 25-point penalty is enforced. He knew that in advance, so do something to try to stop it. Every other time a COT penalty has occured, its 100 points and intentional or not, NASCAR said the penalties for COT infractions were going up. That wasn't the case here.
 
#22
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kkep48 said:
Roush's whining is justified? Every time a car is too low after post-race inspection a 25-point penalty is enforced. He knew that in advance, so do something to try to stop it. Every other time a COT penalty has occured, its 100 points and intentional or not, NASCAR said the penalties for COT infractions were going up. That wasn't the case here.
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Yes,justified.A penalty for something unintentinal is not right.
The only thing that can be done is to have Nascar use common sense in dishing out penalties.When was there a 100 point penalty for an unintentional height infraction?
 
#23
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McLovin said:
Yes,justified.A penalty for something unintentinal is not right.
The only thing that can be done is to have Nascar use common sense in dishing out penalties.When was there a 100 point penalty for an unintentional height infraction?
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A penalty for something unintentional may not be right, but it's been commonplace for NASCAR.

According to NASCAR, 100-point penalties for height infractions were to issued as soon as the COT was introduced. They plainly stated that ALL penalties were going to be more severe with the COT. The tolerances were gone with the COT, and that wasn't the case here.
 
#24
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kkep48 said:
A penalty for something unintentional may not be right, but it's been commonplace for NASCAR.

According to NASCAR, 100-point penalties for height infractions were to issued as soon as the COT was introduced. They plainly stated that ALL penalties were going to be more severe with the COT. The tolerances were gone with the COT, and that wasn't the case here.
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I can see that being the case for pre-race inspection.Not for post race inspections.I understand the Edwards penalty now,but they need to make a change for next season.
 
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