Eerie foreshadowing from the '09 Bama game

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Yes I'm aware this was like 15 years ago... it's the offseason so give me a break.

For some reason the '09 Bama vs Tennessee highlights came up in my suggested search on YouTube, so I had to click on it.

Watch what happens at the 6:07 mark when Daniel Lincoln kicks the first field goal, and listen to Danielson's comment. Kind of eerie how spot on he was.

Again yall... offseason... give me a break.

 

[207 others]

Clicking that is like clicking a link to see dead puppies

 

[Raleigh-Vol]

If you can go back and listen to archives of vol calls on the monday following that game a caller asked Kiffen did he and the coached know if Lincoln was hurt or did they not know. Kiffen absolutely said they did not know. First odd that the announcers could see it and the coaches could not and secondly I heard Lincoln say in an interview weeks later that he told them he was hurt. Somebody lied.

 

[CAVPUT]

If you can go back and listen to archives of vol calls on the monday following that game a caller asked Kiffen did he and the coached know if Lincoln was hurt or did they not know. Kiffen absolutely said they did not know. First odd that the announcers could see it and the coaches could not and secondly I heard Lincoln say in an interview weeks later that he told them he was hurt. Somebody lied.

Kiffen is a fraud.

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

It’s crazy that given his horrible struggles under pressure that he became a Navy Seal. He was probably the first UT player I ever despised.

 

[ptcarter]

If this is the "Mt. Cody" game, I'll say this. Living in Alabama, Cody was somewhat of a legend - but knowing Tennessee football, you need to understand that Cody didn't have to even jump, even if he could. Those kicks were so low, Cody just got in the way of the ball hitting the centers ass, and got all the glory for it. I guess he was the hero, but dang, our kicker and special teams unit on the field sucked that day.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

If this is the "Mt. Cody" game, I'll say this. Living in Alabama, Cody was somewhat of a legend - but knowing Tennessee football, you need to understand that Cody didn't have to even jump, even if he could. Those kicks were so low, Cody just got in the way of the ball hitting the centers ass, and got all the glory for it. I guess he was the hero, but dang, our kicker and special teams unit on the field sucked that day.

It was. I thought it pretty much hit Cody in the chest didn't it? Like it wasn't a true block, it was kicked right at him.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

If you can go back and listen to archives of vol calls on the monday following that game a caller asked Kiffen did he and the coached know if Lincoln was hurt or did they not know. Kiffen absolutely said they did not know. First odd that the announcers could see it and the coaches could not and secondly I heard Lincoln say in an interview weeks later that he told them he was hurt. Somebody lied.

I don’t dislike Kiffin as much as most , but if you’re asking me to choose who I trust more, I’m picking the guy that’s a high level war fighter in one of the most elite military units in the world.

 

[aRmo]

Clicking that is like clicking a link to see dead puppies

 

[ptcarter]

It was. I thought it pretty much hit Cody in the chest didn't it? Like it wasn't a true block, it was kicked right at him.

Twice!! I eat at a bbq place sometimes in Huntsville (Moe's downtown) and as you hug the wall forming the order line, there are a ton of famed pictures. As you are about to place your order, there is "That one" right there. Boy, Bama found glory in that one, on that day. Even if I go in there hungry, my appetite sort of fades while waiting to place my order.

 

[volbound1700]

I am starting to also wonder how much of the issues around Tennessee after 2009 where mental. The comment recently by the offensive tackle that played under both Pruitt and Heupel was interesting (can't remember his name at the moment) were he stated that they went into games with Pruitt hoping to win but not expecting it while they had an expectation that they were going to win every game in Heupel starting in 2022.

I sometimes think Tennessee hasn't had the confidence we should have as a program until now.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

I am starting to also wonder how much of the issues around Tennessee after 2009 where mental. The comment recently by the offensive tackle that played under both Pruitt and Heupel was interesting (can't remember his name at the moment) were he stated that they went into games with Pruitt hoping to win but not expecting it while they had an expectation that they were going to win every game in Heupel starting in 2022.

I sometimes think Tennessee hasn't had the confidence we should have as a program until now.

100%. Winning programs develop the attitude that they will win over time and it gets ingrained in a culture. While UT football has a long winning tradition, we had completely lost it after about 5 years into the reign of the 3 stooges, and developed a loser culture. Heupel has been reversing that, it's a really underrated aspect of his tenure.

 

[volbound1700]

100%. Winning programs develop the attitude that they will win over time and it gets ingrained in a culture. While UT football has a long winning tradition, we had completely lost it after about 5 years into the reign of the 3 stooges, and developed a loser culture. Heupel has been reversing that, it's a really underrated aspect of his tenure.

Great post

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

100%. Winning programs develop the attitude that they will win over time and it gets ingrained in a culture. While UT football has a long winning tradition, we had completely lost it after about 5 years into the reign of the 3 stooges, and developed a loser culture. Heupel has been reversing that, it's a really underrated aspect of his tenure.

I remember one year, can't remember which one but either 2017 or 2020 makes the most sense, there was a GoVols 247 article titled "Losing is a disease, and Tennessee is very very sick"

I felt like that was so spot on.

 

[GAVol]

It was. I thought it pretty much hit Cody in the chest didn't it? Like it wasn't a true block, it was kicked right at him.

Not sure it even mattered. We just couldn’t block Cody that day and it seemed like he was in the backfield before Lincoln could even get his foot on the ball.

 

[onevol74]

I am starting to also wonder how much of the issues around Tennessee after 2009 where mental. The comment recently by the offensive tackle that played under both Pruitt and Heupel was interesting (can't remember his name at the moment) were he stated that they went into games with Pruitt hoping to win but not expecting it while they had an expectation that they were going to win every game in Heupel starting in 2022.

I sometimes think Tennessee hasn't had the confidence we should have as a program until now.

That goes with fans too. We have fans who want to play weak schedules thinking that is a game we should win and expecting to lose against major competition.

If we really want to be a great program you need to play the best competition and expect to win. No more UTEP, UTC, Akron, etc. Bring some teams to Neyland that the fans and players can get excited to see. I understand you have to play a couple every year, but 4 or 5? Nothing like playing UTEP, UTM, or Kent State to get you ready for the playoffs.

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

It’s crazy that given his horrible struggles under pressure that he became a Navy Seal. He was probably the first UT player I ever despised.

Why would you despise a collefe football player?

 

[Flipdaddy]

Kiffin leaving was a disaster because Tennessee didn’t realize the setback that was coming by not making a splash hire like Alabama did by giving Saban full control.

Looking back, Gruden would’ve been the rockstar hire. Not sure if he would’ve won a game but Tennessee needed to do something crazy. By not doing so, we went through hell and became a laughing stock of college football. Soooo many years wasted. There’s no way Tennessee can ever let that happen again.

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

Why would you despise a collefe football player?

Aaron Hernandez played college football

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

That goes with fans too. We have fans who want to play weak schedules thinking that is a game we should win and expecting to lose against major competition.

If we really want to be a great program you need to play the best competition and expect to win. No more UTEP, UTC, Akron, etc. Bring some teams to Neyland that the fans and players can get excited to see. I understand you have to play a couple every year, but 4 or 5? Nothing like playing UTEP, UTM, or Kent State to get you ready for the playoffs.

Literally every school does this. We'll stop when they all stop, otherwise we are not putting ourselves at a disadvantage

 

[volbound1700]

Kiffin leaving was a disaster because Tennessee didn’t realize the setback that was coming by not making a splash hire like Alabama did by giving Saban full control.

Looking back, Gruden would’ve been the rockstar hire. Not sure if he would’ve won a game but Tennessee needed to do something crazy. By not doing so, we went through hell and became a laughing stock of college football. Soooo many years wasted. There’s no way Tennessee can ever let that happen again.

To me, Gary Patterson, was our best option. He was interested around that time in making jump from TCU (TCU wasn't in big-time league then).

Chip Kelley was interested but I think that may have been pre-Kiffin and not post-Kiffin. They rushed the hire with Dooley to "save the recruiting class" which did NOT work. Should have went interim for 1-year and did a solid search. Then again, I didn't trust Mike Hamilton to find a good coach even with better planning. Guy just did not have what it took to be an AD.

We keep talking about coaches but our AD hires were just as bad if not worse.

 

[Flipdaddy]

To me, Gary Patterson, was our best option. He was interested around that time in making jump from TCU (TCU wasn't in big-time league then).

Chip Kelley was interested but I think that may have been pre-Kiffin and not post-Kiffin. They rushed the hire with Dooley to "save the recruiting class" which did NOT work. Should have went interim for 1-year and did a solid search. Then again, I didn't trust Mike Hamilton to find a good coach even with better planning. Guy just did not have what it took to be an AD.

We keep talking about coaches but our AD hires were just as bad if not worse.

Yeah Patterson would've been a good choice at that time, I’ll agree with that.