Election Influence and Fraud - What we know, what we don't know

[tnmarktx]

Ho


How many threads are you going to peddle this Carlson clip in? We get it, stop spamming this across threads.

Will continue to post this for everyone of you Biden folks. Hope you feel like idiots for voting for him.

 

[MontyPython]

Will continue to post this for everyone of you Biden folks. Hope you feel like idiots for voting for him.

 

[Septic]

Will continue to post this for everyone of you Biden folks.

You spelled "overwhelming majority of American voters" wrong.

 

[tnmarktx]

You spelled "overwhelming majority of American voters" wrong.

So you support the CCP's agenda?

 

[Septic]

So you support the CCP's agenda?

Absolutely, I'm taking Mandarin at the local Community College. I want to be ahead of the curve and be able to curry favor immediately when our Communist overlords take over.

 

[tnmarktx]

Absolutely, I'm taking Mandarin at the local Community College. I want to be ahead of the curve and be able to curry favor immediately when our Communist overlords take over.

So you don't believe Biden will be supportive of favoring the CCP and their agenda?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Absolutely, I'm taking Mandarin at the local Community College. I want to be ahead of the curve and be able to curry favor immediately when our Communist overlords take over.

I'm getting takeout from Panda Express for lunch. Baby steps.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Got the same email in my junk box, right next to the one from my long-lost cousin in Tim-Buck-Two, Africa that apparently has left me a hefty inheritance.

so how much inheritance did he leave you? I too have a cousin in Africa that left me an inheritance. Do we have the same cousin? They asked me to pay $1,500 US Dollars to clear up the legal disputes concerning the money. It is very tempting. Do you think if I asked the trump supporters for money for a legal defense fund, that I could raise the $1,500? I don't want to spend MY money on it.

 

[GSD82]

At this point Trump, Giuliani, Graham, and Jim Jordan are effectively attempting a coup.

They should be dealt with by the law accordingly.

I don't remember you dems crying about a coup from 2016 until about 3 months ago

 

[GSD82]

Will continue to post this for everyone of you Biden folks. Hope you feel like idiots for voting for him.

They don't. Mean man is gone they don't care they replaced him with a Chinese puppet and a communist slut

 

[Ashevolle]

What we know and what we don’t know

All of the facts presented below can be documented if you want to do the research. The purpose of this post is to inform people so they will demand these issues be investigated. If you are a democrat, just be honest with yourself. If the roles were reversed, would you be O.K. with it? Would you be outraged? Would you demand a thorough investigation? Of course you would! If we can spend $32M on false claims of Russian collusion by Trump, we should be able to spend a few million determining if the presidential election was hijacked. If a thorough investigation is conducted, I'll be satisfied with the result. If not, how can anyone accept the outcome as legitimate?

We know that both Joe Biden and Maxine Waters publicly stated in separate interviews that Obama “…created a voter fraud organization like has never been seen..." confidently indicating that it would ensure that Democrats would win the 2020 presidential election.

We don’t know what organization that is. Why is it secretive? How is it funded? How does it operate? Who is in the organization? Is it likely that the organization is modeled after the Chicago political machine from which Obama achieved his political success? For those of you who don’t know, it’s a fact that Chicago is considered by most political historians to be by far the most politically corrupt city in the history of the country with a long history of voter suppression and fraud.
We don't know if the organization Obama created is the “Center for Tech and Civil Live” (CTCL). We don't know that it isn't. Why doesn't someone ask him?

We know that an independent analytics company run by a Biden supporter says that there is no question that media bias resulted in at least 6 million more votes cast for Biden and perhaps as many as 21 million. He stated that there is no question but what the mainstream media suppressed negative news on Biden, in particular the Hunter Biden Ukraine story.

We know that Mark Zuckerberg donated $250M to the CTCL. The CTCL is very active in battleground states.
We don’t know how that money was used, but $250M would provide over $1000 for every ballot that Biden needed to defeat Trump.
We don’t know why tech people are a significant part of CTCL. Could they have been used to hack the voting machines and train people how to do it with the thumb drives?

We know that Hugo Chavez used Dominion voting machines and Smartmatic software to control the outcome of Venezuelan elections in favor of Chavez and his party. We also know that those voting machines and software were used in the battleground states.
We don’t know for sure that those machines and their thumb drives were rigged to swing the election.

We know for certain that voter fraud occurred.
We don’t know the full extent.

We know a GA election official testified before the GA legislative committee that there was a technical problem with one of the voting machines. She called Dominion in Colorado and the tech support people fixed the problem on line, indicating the machines were connected to the internet.
We know that Dominion has stated the machines were not connected to the internet, but they have refused to testify before the Georgia legislative committee.

We know that the thumb drives used in the dominion voting machines can be programed to change votes counted by the machine. We also know that select election workers had access to the thumb drives and there is at least one video of a worker changing the thumb drive on a voting machine. We also know that weeks before the election, a number of Dominion thumb drives were reported missing or stolen.

We know in Clark Co. Michigan that in 10 precincts, the vote count revealed that 100% of the registered voters voted.
We know that in 6 precincts, the vote count equaled 120% of the registered voters.

We know that a number of people are recorded as voting multiple times in Georgia and other battleground states.

We know that there are multiple cases where people used other peoples’ voter registration to vote absentee. In most cases, the registered voter did not vote in the previous election. This was not discovered until the registered voted turned up to vote or requested a ballot and were told they had already voted.
We know that this indicates that there was inadequate verification of voter ID.

We know that a number of people who lived outside of Georgia mailed in ballots even though they were not citizens of Georgia.

We know that many mail-in ballots had an address that did not exist or the “voter” no longer lived at that address.

We know a trucker who works for a third-party transporter testified under oath that he transported hundreds of thousands of blank ballots from a New York U.S. Post Office loading dock to a remote location in Pennsylvania and left the trailer loaded with the ballots in a remote location as instructed. We don’t know what happened to those ballots.

We know that in at least one Georgia precinct, republican election workers were told voting was done for the night and they could go home. Video shows that after they left, several huge bags of ballots, hidden by black skirting around tables in the area, were pulled out from under tables and counted without any republican observers present.
We don’t know where those ballots came from or how many were counted or for whom those ballots were cast.
We do know that the time that this occurred coincided with a dramatic spike in votes for Biden.

We know that in Georgia an election official testified under oath before the Georgia congressional delegation that a number of ballots were obviously forged because they all had a flaw in the printing that indicated they were copies of the same original ballot. She also noted other irregularities on other batches of ballots. Furthermore, she testified that a large number of absentee ballots were brought in the counting area in cardboard boxes from another room and not folded as would be necessary if mailed out or mailed in. She stated that there was no chain of custody for these ballots. She noted that those ballots were in a batch, not mixed with folded ballots.
We don’t know if anyone has attempted to verify that those particular ballots were valid ballots.

We know that in Georgia, a republican poll official testified under oath that democrat poll workers attempted to deny access to polling stations by Republican poll officials who had the documentation proving they were supposed to be there. The republican officials were intimidated and told they would be removed by police if they didn’t leave. One of the republican poll officials was a retired military officer who refused to be intimidated and told the democratic poll worker that he would not leave and after a period of time was finally admitted to the polling station.
We don’t know how many other republican polling officials were intimidated into leaving polling stations.

We know on the night of the election that there was a “glitch” in the vote count reported on the news networks during the time frame that Biden’s vote count spiked. The vote count showed up on the banner at the bottom of the screen and a split-second later, the vote count was updated. This time, the vote count for Biden increased by a number of votes and the vote count for Trump decreased by the same identical number.
We don’t know if there is a plausible explanation for this anomaly, but we haven’t heard any such explanation.

We know that on Nov. 28, 2020, Di Dongshen, a professor at Renmin University in Beijing, appeard on a Chinese television show about Wall Street and international trade. Di is a servant of his country’s government. In the video Di said “The Trump administration is in a trade war with us, so why can’t we fix the Trump administration? Why, between 1992 and 2016, China and the U.S., use to be able to settle all kinds of issues? No mater what kind of crises we encountered…things were solved in no time….We fixed everything in two months. What is the reason? I’m going to throw out something maybe a little bit explosive here. It’s just because we have people at the top. At the top of America’s core inner circle of power and influence, we have our old friends.”

“For the past 30 years, 40 years, we have been utilizing the core power of the United States ... Since the 1970s, Wall Street had a very strong influence on the domestic and foreign affairs of the United States, so we had a channel to rely on. But the problem is that after 2008, the status of Wall Street has declined, and more importantly, after 2016, Wall Street can't fix Trump. Why? It's very awkward. Trump had a previous soft default issue with Wall Street, so there was a conflict between them. But I won't go into details, I may not have enough time. So during the U.S.-China trade war they [Wall Street] tried to help. And I know that, my friends on the U.S. side told me that they tried to help, but they couldn't do much.”

“But now we're seeing Biden was elected [laughter]. The traditional elite, the political elite, the establishment, they're very close to Wall Street. So you see that, right? Trump has been saying that Biden's son has some sort of global foundation. Have you noticed that? Who helped him [Biden's son] build the foundations? Got it? There are a lot of deals in all these.”

We know that the first human case of Covid-19 was reported in Wuhan in December 2019.
We know that the virus was man-made.
We know that Wuhan has a highly secure biological testing facility in the Wuhan area.
We don’t know if the Wuhan testing facility manufactures viruses.
We don’t know for sure if the virus originated at the Wuhan biological testing facility.

We know that the Red Cross has blood samples taken from donors in 9 states from as early as Dec. 19, 2019 that were infected with Covid-19.

We know that the timing of the Covid-19 pandemic allowed an opportunity for democrats to justify an initiative to push for mail-in ballots.

We don’t know if the Covid-19 pandemic was initiated by the Chinese government in an attempt to influence the U.S. presidential election.

We don’t know if the Covid-19 pandemic was orchestrated by China in conjunction with “America’s core inner circle of power and influence” as referred to by Professor Di in the quote above.

We know that a bi-partisan committee chaired by Jimmy Carter reported that “’Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.”

We don’t know if there has been any investigation launched by the DOJ or the FBI.

We do know that many people committed voter fraud with regard to willfully violating absentee voting laws, a felony punishable by a $5000 fine and/or up to 5 years in prison.
We don't know if there is going to be any effort to enforce voter fraud laws, prosecuting those who committed fraud.
We do know if there is not an effort to prosecute those committing voter fraud, there is no deterrent to committing voter fraud.

We do know that with subpoena power, law enforcement agencies can do much more in-depth investigations, but
We don’t know if ANY of the “whistleblowers” have even been contacted by law enforcement agencies.
We don’t know if there was a coordinated effort to control the outcome of the election.
We don’t know if there wasn’t. But there are far too many questions that need to be answered before we can have confidence that the 2020 presidential was not compromised.

If you want to dispute any of the "We know" statements, be sure to do your research. Those statements can be substantiated.

We do know.....

 

[Ashevolle]

At this point Trump, Giuliani, Graham, and Jim Jordan are effectively attempting a coup.

They should be dealt with by the law accordingly.

I wouldn't call it effective

 

[jvol1]

At this point Trump, Giuliani, Graham, and Jim Jordan are effectively attempting a coup.

They should be dealt with by the law accordingly.

I'm starting to get that trump will be leaving office only in a body bag feeling as well. Sigh, ivanka 2024, right?

 

[VFFL@THE BEACH]

At this point Trump, Giuliani, Graham, and Jim Jordan are effectively attempting a coup.

They should be dealt with by the law accordingly.

This has gone on too long and has reach levels of illegal actions. Sedition is definitely appropriate and really an argument could be made for treason.

Only reason that I don't think its made is the decency of people involved. No one screamed louder than drumpf about locking up political opponents, ironic that they have patience with this petulant baby. One of the legacies drumpf will be known for and thus hampering our democracy, and making us look like the 3rd world countries he called sh$thole countries.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I don't remember you dems crying about a coup from 2016 until about 3 months ago

We don't remember Hillary Clinton ever referring to the 2016 Presidential election as having been "rigged". We do remember Hillary Clinton conceding defeat the day after the 2016 Presidential election on November 9, 2016 and saying this during her concession speech:

"Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans. This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for and I'm sorry that we did not win this election for the values we share and the vision we hold for our country."

and Hillary Clinton said this as well....

"We have seen that our nation is more deeply divided than we thought. But I still believe in America and I always will. And if you do, then we must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead."

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You are drawing a false equivalency in bringing up the Russian probe. Hillary Clinton immediately conceded defeat after the election, and she was very gracious in the process. Also, Barack Obama immediately invited Donald Trump to the White House and extended congratulations to him where his victory was acknowledged in front of the White House press corps. The Obama Administration did not try to impede the transition of power. There is nothing to indicate that the Obama Administration was ever anything but cooperative with the Trump transition team.

 

[BowlBrother85]

This has gone on too long and has reach levels of illegal actions. Sedition is definitely appropriate and really an argument could be made for treason.

Only reason that I don't think its made is the decency of people involved. No one screamed louder than drumpf about locking up political opponents, ironic that they have patience with this petulant baby. One of the legacies drumpf will be known for and thus hampering our democracy, and making us look like the 3rd world countries he called sh$thole countries.

And Trump is lying when he says that he just wants every legal vote counted, and every illegally cast vote thrown out. Trump has been aggressively attempting to subvert the United States democratic system of elections. He has been calling on Republican Governors and state legislatures in two states (Arizona and Georgia) to disregard the popular vote in their states and award "faithless" electors for him. He has gone as far as inviting Republican state legislators in Michigan to the White House where he could woo them. It is highly inappropriate and unethical. Trump isn't concerned with having a righteous election... he isn't above anything. Trump just wants to win. This has been a completely self-serving exercise with Republicans placating and indulging Trump far longer than they ever should have.

 

[Roustabout]

We don't remember Hillary Clinton ever referring to the 2016 Presidential election as having been "rigged". We do remember Hillary Clinton conceding defeat the day after the 2016 Presidential election on November 9, 2016 and saying this during her concession speech:

"Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans. This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for and I'm sorry that we did not win this election for the values we share and the vision we hold for our country."

and Hillary Clinton said this as well....

"We have seen that our nation is more deeply divided than we thought. But I still believe in America and I always will. And if you do, then we must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead."

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You are drawing a false equivalency in bringing up the Russian probe. Hillary Clinton immediately conceded defeat after the election, and she was very gracious in the process. Also, Barack Obama immediately invited Donald Trump to the White House and extended congratulations to him where his victory was acknowledged in front of the White House press corps. The Obama Administration did not try to impede the transition of power. There is nothing to indicate that the Obama Administration was ever anything but cooperative with the Trump transition team.

Other than conspiring against him.
All you are saying is that perception is more important than reality.

 

[GSD82]

We don't remember Hillary Clinton ever referring to the 2016 Presidential election as having been "rigged". We do remember Hillary Clinton conceding defeat the day after the 2016 Presidential election on November 9, 2016 and saying this during her concession speech:

"Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans. This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for and I'm sorry that we did not win this election for the values we share and the vision we hold for our country."

and Hillary Clinton said this as well....

"We have seen that our nation is more deeply divided than we thought. But I still believe in America and I always will. And if you do, then we must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead."

********************
You are drawing a false equivalency in bringing up the Russian probe. Hillary Clinton immediately conceded defeat after the election, and she was very gracious in the process. Also, Barack Obama immediately invited Donald Trump to the White House and extended congratulations to him where his victory was acknowledged in front of the White House press corps. The Obama Administration did not try to impede the transition of power. There is nothing to indicate that the Obama Administration was ever anything but cooperative with the Trump transition team.

LOL except they spied on the Trump campaign and put together a Russian hoax investigation. Don't try to act like Barry was all for a peaceful transition of power, he wasn't. I don't want President Trump to cooperate one second with dementia patient 0

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

LOL except they spied on the Trump campaign and put together a Russian hoax investigation. Don't try to act like Barry was all for a peaceful transition of power, he wasn't. I don't want President Trump to cooperate one second with dementia patient 0

You need to go to a massage parlor and ask for a happy ending.

 

[Septic]

I'm starting to get that trump will be leaving office only in a body bag feeling as well. Sigh, ivanka 2024, right?

Melanoma Trump is probably encouraging Donny to fight the good fight, I'll bet she'd secretly love to see him either stroke out or get removed by force.

What's the over under on days before she files for divorce after she gets back to Mar a Lago?

 

[GSD82]

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I wonder how many times this happened to Commie Harris

 

[Septic]

So you don't believe Biden will be supportive of favoring the CCP and their agenda?

Remember when Trump was working with our adversaries and you guys were all "HeZ OpENinG DiALogUe WItH tH3M, U LiBTaRDz SHoUld taKe NoTEz On ARt if Da DEalz MaST3r"

But now that there's this phantom floating around Parler that Biden might be nice to China, suddenly your inner screech peaks out from its four year hibernation.

 

[VFFL@THE BEACH]

LOL except they spied on the Trump campaign and put together a Russian hoax investigation. Don't try to act like Barry was all for a peaceful transition of power, he wasn't. I don't want President Trump to cooperate one second with dementia patient 0

First off Russian interference in the 2016 election is fact.

You do not want any civility because you are an anarchist and hate America. Meanwhile the rest of us will move on with our lives.

What are you going to do when drumpf is out of office and you are faced with a qualified Republican?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Absolutely, I'm taking Mandarin at the local Community College. I want to be ahead of the curve and be able to curry favor immediately when our Communist overlords take over.

LOL! Doubtful that you will be attending CC for Mandarin. Talking to Chinese babes at your local Szechuan dragon restaurant for Mandarin tips doesn’t count either. Blue font maybe.

 

[GSD82]

First off Russian interference in the 2016 election is fact.

You do not want any civility because you are an anarchist and hate America. Meanwhile the rest of us will move on with our lives.

What are you going to do when drumpf is out of office and you are faced with a qualified Republican?

They wanted to interfere only because they wanted chaos, you all cooperated

You dems/communists are the ones who hate this country, you all envy communists China.

To you all radical leftists, a qualified R would be Jeb and let's ask ourselves why. Well of course because he is so terrible even your girl Hill would have beat him