Eli Drinkwitz catches heat for comparing NIL to pediatrician salary

[give_him 6]

Once again, Eli is a little behind. His brother is no longer just a pediatrician. He's the president of the Mercy Hospital in Joplin, MO.

 

[BruisedOrange]

I find it interesting that Drinkwitz, serving at a school which has suffered publicly in the pursuit of "woke" practices, chose to make the superficial, emotionally satisfying, justice-y, soundbite argument instead of addressing the hard economic realities (which most of us agree need addressing for the future well-being of college sports).

It's just a fact that in a (purportedly) free market economy, you cannot equate income with ethical values. The two are seldom linked.

Professional athletes in one sport make tens of millions, world class athletes in another sport make relatively piddle, and EMS workers who save lives daily can only dream of retiring on piddle. Why? Because if what you do--no matter how silly, immoral, or inconsequential--generates sales income for other participants in the marketplace... that is your "value" in the free market.

By those values, most of the "income" that pediatricians generate (besides paying malpractice insurance) doesn't appear for two decades down the road. Until then, children are dependents the government loses tax income on for their first 20+ years. Children mostly increase the sales of clothing--made in Asia. Those are the cold, green eye-shaded facts if you limit the discussion to $$$.


(Which is why, without a widespread sense of accountability to God, now and in the hereafter, capitalism and free market economies (as sadly as this conservative brain hates to admit it) devolve into corrupted systems that accumulate power in the pursuit of risk management on ever increasing scales.)

 

[Fightmaker]

All this stuff doesn’t move my emotions meter much…at all either way. Reminds me years ago in my profession our director complained because we were making double what his son was making with a Masters in Business with much more training/education than was required for our level of work. He suggested we take a pay cut because of his comparison to his son. We told him “Nah …your son needs to quit his job and come on board with us.” He was greatly offended.

Are you in sales by chance? I’ve known a handful of guys who barely made it out of high school, who make stupid amounts of money in sales.

 

[wmcovol]

Another thread where we can point out how inept Missouri is by giving a football coach without a winning record in 3 seasons and is unable to recruit the top talent in their state a $6 million salary. Missouri deserves every struggle that comes their way!

As the legendary John Wayne said “Life’s hard, and it’s really tough if you’re stupid”.

 

[Pennheel]

I was just watching Paul Finebaum and Drinkwitz was on. He's saying that his comment was taken out of context. He mentioned that it had to do with the players with these NIL deals and not knowing how to manage a lot of money and possibly going broke. If that's the case,I can see where he's coming from. Although I think his career as a coach was inheriting a great team at Appy St. and going 12-1. Then going on to getting an undeserved contract for underperforming at Missouri.

 

[tennrich1]

Are you in sales by chance? I’ve known a handful of guys who barely made it out of high school, who make stupid amounts of money in sales.

No... never worked in sales(I've known a lot of sales guy that made tons as well). Just a great career that I deeply loved with massive comradery (spent more time with the "guys" than i did family) still to this day. Highly dangerous work and survived almost 30 years with only a few injuries. I think Drinkwitz further explained his comments on the NIL. IMO the NIL deal is constitutionally accurate but probably practically has the potential for chaos.

 

[SpookyAction]

Is there a NCAA rule prohibiting personal finance counseling and advising for athletes?
Because,
If there is, the co-operatives can simply make it a requirement for their NIL deals. Wouldn't be the athletic department in that case.


I am completely supportive of working to and being diligent about keeping gambling money out of the game, and especially the officiating, (cough cough Music City Bowl cough, cough), but that is the question that was asked, and not quite what his answer was about. This will definitely destroy the sport more effectively than anything else. This point is why I do not understand the cavalier attitude so many fans feel toward the need for Pete Rose's lifetime ban from MLB.
I would expect gambling money would be a bigger enticement for players without a big NIL deal. So why is that what his rely was about? He obviously wanted to get that stance in there, whether it was on point, or not.

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[WillisWG]

they just gave him an extension. going to be there for a while.

Extensions mean nothing, in Dec 2007 we extended CPF's contract by a year to 2012 then fired him the following October.

 

[Orange.]

I was just watching Paul Finebaum and Drinkwitz was on. He's saying that his comment was taken out of context. He mentioned that it had to do with the players with these NIL deals and not knowing how to manage a lot of money and possibly going broke. If that's the case,I can see where he's coming from. Although I think his career as a coach was inheriting a great team at Appy St. and going 12-1. Then going on to getting an undeserved contract for underperforming at Missouri.

If that's Drinkwitz's revised untrue version of what he claims he was saying, it's worse. As coach he could have easily set up such a educational program for his athletes. Directly or through their AD or their NIL group. I guess he was too irresponsible or focused on his millions to do it. It doesn't require a command from the NCAA or Washington or the World Court at The Hague.

Programs are already teaching athletes about this. Shame on this feckless, lying, greedy, egotistical, posturing, backstabbing, over-paid multi-millionaire clown for griping about players, and then claiming he did it because -- unlike himself -- they are too ignorant to have money.

What is really happening: Drinkwitz is trying to shift blame because he sucks. And none of the bumper class of recruits in his state want to play for him.

 

[Orange.]

Mizzou, please sign that clown to a 30-year deal. We beg you!

 

[LouderVol]

Extensions mean nothing, in Dec 2007 we extended CPF's contract by a year to 2012 then fired him the following October.

sure, but they will have to pay. Mizzou isn't the type of place that wants to pay. expectations there aren't nearly as high as they are here.

 

[WillisWG]

sure, but they will have to pay. Mizzou isn't the type of place that wants to pay. expectations there aren't nearly as high as they are here.

Every school pays when they fire a coach unless it's for cause. Eli is their Derek Dooley. They fired Odom after four with a 25-25 record. Eli is 17-19, Tigers are looking at another subpar season. Take the hit and move on.

 

[SpookyAction]

Gary Pinkel was a master at getting good execution from talent that was not pursued by the elite programs.
I don't want them to find another Pinkel.

 

[Wolfeman_Vol]

Drinkwitz and his brother are adults with careers. College football players are STUDENT-athletes. They're students;
they're in college. They go to classes. They are not educated. They are not working career professionals. This distinction seems to have been lost on the NIL boosters and all those who are suddenly OK with taking the corruption and greed endemic in major-college athletics to an even
higher level by bribing young people to attend/play for their school. NIL is a joke--runaway corruption. A lot
of these kids getting NIL money now will be in for a rude awakening in a few years when they are not playing pro football, and they
have no degree or some lame football degree, and are in the working world and making lousy money.

Corruption? Or recognizing one's value in a marketplace? Everything is worth what the market says its worth, including football players. Its ridiculous that they were never paid, except for under the table, before now. Scholarship athletes were even forbidden from having jobs that paid more than a piddly amount each year. It was incredulously, ridiculously, exploitation.

 

[walkenvol]

Every school pays when they fire a coach unless it's for cause. Eli is there Derek Dooley. They fired Odom after four with a 25-25 record. Eli is 17-19, Tigers are looking at another subpar season. Take the hit and move on.

Firing Odom was their biggest mistake. Guy was an alum and is a first rate defensive coach. He just needed to partner with the right offensive coordinator and he would have had Mizzou competitive in the SEC. JMO

 

[WillisWG]

Firing Odom was their biggest mistake. Guy was an alum and is a first rate defensive coach. He just needed to partner with the right offensive coordinator and he would have had Mizzou competitive in the SEC. JMO

Great defensive guy but hiring Dooley after Heupel was a HUGE mistake for him.

 

[SpookyAction]

Firing Odom was their biggest mistake. Guy was an alum and is a first rate defensive coach. He just needed to partner with the right offensive coordinator and he would have had Mizzou competitive in the SEC. JMO

The offense was good in 2017, when Heupel was hired away to UCF.
Mizzou was 7-6. Next two seasons, 8-6 and 6-6 in 2019 Looks weird they fired him after that. By 2019, the offense broke down and the defense was great, giving up only 233 points.

I agree with you it is hard for them to do better than Odom.
The Drinkwitz - Dooley comparisons are apt.

Mizzou 2020 5-5, 79th scoring offense
2021 6-7, 61st scoring offense
2022 6-7, 86th scoring offense

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I guess he doesn't like players making so much. His brother-in-law is a pediatrician and was used as an example of how CFB players are making much more from NIL than doctors (for example).
Drinkwitz makes $6mil per yr base salary, and has zero winning seasons at Mizzou.

Eli Drinkwitz catches heat for comparing NIL to pediatrician salary

I know some members are not in favor of players making CFB into a profession, desiring the amateur aspect of CFB to remain. But I am not certain how amateur it has been for players that were in-demand prior to NIL.

I am glad our HC is not implying recruits make too much from NIL collectives. NIL is a very good equalizer for UT, so far.
He is getting lit up on twitter, apparently.

We seem to be pretty good in recruiting players from Missouri. Let him talk some more.

 

[05_never_again]

How much you get paid has nothing to do with how important your job is to society.

 

[woodpusher]

I'd also point out that if you raised the salary of pediatricians to $10M or more, there would be fewer pediatricians. They might all have armies of physician's assistants who do the real work.

Before movies, actors' pay was very low.

 

[dobre_shunka]

Dorkowitz is a moran. However I see his point on a way. In a perfect world, saving lives should be one of the most high paying jobs in the world.

Joanie agrees

 

[mackievol]

Eli Drink a Fifth is the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[ButchPlz]

Eli Drink a Fifth is the gift that keeps on giving.

He's certainly the guy that looks like a smart nerd but is actually an overcompensating idiot.

 

[SpookyAction]

He's certainly the guy that looks like a smart nerd but is actually an overcompensating idiot.

He definitely does not look like a football coach stereotype.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

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