EPA Official - Crucify Oil Companies

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Your government officials at work:

In the video, Administrator Armendariz says:

“I was in a meeting once and I gave an analogy to my staff about my philosophy of enforcement, and I think it was probably a little crude and maybe not appropriate for the meeting, but I’ll go ahead and tell you what I said:

“It was kind of like how the Romans used to, you know, conquer villages in the Mediterranean. They’d go in to a little Turkish town somewhere, they’d find the first five guys they saw and they’d crucify them.

“Then, you know, that town was really easy to manage for the next few years.”

“It’s a deterrent factor,” Armendariz said, explaining that the EPA is following the Romans’ philosophy for subjugating conquered villages.
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EPA Official's 'Philosophy' On Oil Companies: 'Crucify Them' - Just As Romans Crucified Conquered Citizens | CNSNews.com
 
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This topic should have gotten a lot more play, imo.

The latest developement is that the EPA has stopped all fracking on federal land.

Fracking has not ever produced ground water pollution since it was first used in 1949.

The main ingredients used in fracturing technology are water and sand, other chemicals used are not harmful.

Just one more step in the crucifiction of the American economy by the Obama regime which constists of the most extreme collection of tree huggers ever assembled since Adolph Hitler ruled the Ayran Nazi nation.

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Just as I thought: this thread was specifically started to bait GS into spewing more garbage.
 
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My objection to fracking has nothing to do with how it affects the environment; rather, the objection lies in what property rights consist of and how deep they extend.
 
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therealUT said:
My objection to fracking has nothing to do with how it affects the environment; rather, the objection lies in what property rights consist of and how deep they extend.
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Disagree with the first, agree with the second.
 
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picking an arbitrary depth and saying that everything below that depth doesnt belong to the landowner and instead belongs to the state, is socialism
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Venezuela, Iran, and France to name a few.

What's your objection with landowners and their mineral rights?
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Sorry, I should have clarified: where in my post did I say that the state should have property rights after a certain depth?

My objection is to those doing the fracking: a process which consists of drilling very deep, vertically, and then collecting horizontally. There are companies who are collecting beneath land to which they do not have rights; this is my objection.
 
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therealUT said:
Sorry, I should have clarified: where in my post did I say that the state should have property rights after a certain depth?

My objection is to those doing the fracking: a process which consists of drilling very deep, vertically, and then collecting horizontally. There are companies who are collecting beneath land to which they do not have rights; this is my objection.
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Not to mention sometimes damaging the property of others, then skating
 
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Forced pooling sucks but if it isnt done then the wells will be drilled in an inefficent cluster f.

If an oil/gas company employee (like a truck driver) damages someones property, that landowner needs to write the O/G co a letter and they will come out and fix the problem and usually make it better than before. The O/G business is very people intensive and they dont want a bad reputation in an area they are drilling in. They dont want someones broken fence or gravel road to screw up multimillion dollar deals
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Forced pooling sucks but if it isnt done then the wells will be drilled in an inefficent cluster f.
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As I thought, you really need to look into the concept of socialism; as, "forced pooling" certainly falls more into socialist practices than free-market capitalist practices.
 
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the only time forced pooling is an issue is when they are drilling in city limits where you have hundreds of landowners with 1/3 acre lots. Personally I think there is enough o/g in this country where you dont have to drill inside city limits and force pooling. They usually lease in 640 acre sections

Its an eminent domain issue. What do you do when an O/G company has paid hundreds of people, thousands of $s and there is 1 guy with a 1/3rd of an acre out of a 640 acre section who doesnt want to sign?
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
What do you do when an O/G company has paid hundreds of people, thousands of $s and there is 1 guy with a 1/3rd of an acre out of a 640 acre section who doesnt want to sign?
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You offer that one guy more money; if he still refuses to accept, then you lose. That is called capitalism.
 
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he is already getting a sweetheart deall. Thats not capitalism, thats highway robbery, but im not going to defend forced pooling so go pound sand
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
he is already getting a sweetheart deall. Thats not capitalism, thats highway robbery, but im not going to defend forced pooling so go pound sand
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Nobody has property rights beyond a certain percentage of "fair market value"? That is socialism, comrade.
 
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