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Manvol said:
Secondary violations ........ cheating.........you can weigh those on the truth and justice scale foryourself but that's a slipery slope of aligations that would define the NCAA coaching profession. I'll let Pearl have his day in the NCAA court before I start throwing out moral conclusions before knowing what has been won or lost in the appeals.
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so intentionally breaking the rules isn't cheating? How does Bruce lying to the NCAA rate on you truth and justice scale?

HardKnoxVol said:
Funny how people's moods change after wins or losses. I support Bruce and I think he's a great coach. So what he screws up? Everyone does get over it. You want someone like Buzz coming in again? I remember how fun Buzz Ball was! Not...
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it is true that the only choices for a UT basketball coach are Bruce and Buzz. You nailed it
 
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all the discussions about Bruce aside, ESPN does hate us... there's too much evidence to the contrary... i believe you must have some sort of negative comment about the Vols in your resume in order to get hired at ESPN... pick a commentator, they've all either portrayed UT in a bad light or said something negative about Tennessee at some point... :bad:
 
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HardKnoxVol said:
Funny how people's moods change after wins or losses. I support Bruce and I think he's a great coach. So what he screws up? Everyone does get over it. You want someone like Buzz coming in again? I remember how fun Buzz Ball was! Not...
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Winning has nothing to do with it. We barely beat a awful USC team last night. Not much to be excited about there. Ive stood behind him and will continue to until he is no longer the coach here, which I hope is a long time from now. Weve made the sweet sixteen twice and the elite 8 once in the last 5 years. Like I said, I cant overlook that.
 
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In response to the OP, I believe that the latest revelations with the Oregon football recruiting is going to help stem the onslaught of Bruce Pearl timelines, etc. Thanks Chip!!!
 
#32
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if Tennessee is irrelevant, nobody is discussing it regularly locally and nationally. Tennessee has a powerful position across the board is exceptionally valuable to college sports. There are probably only 10-15 schools that are that fortunate due to their reputation in most sports. It's just something big picture to keep in mind.
 
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beachvol23 said:
if Tennessee is irrelevant, nobody is discussing it regularly locally and nationally. Tennessee has a powerful position across the board is exceptionally valuable to college sports. There are probably only 10-15 schools that are that fortunate due to their reputation in most sports. It's just something big picture to keep in mind.
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Never thought about it that way. But it makes sense.
 
#35
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beachvol23 said:
I clocked 13 minutes on Sportscenter that Tennessee was on the sidebar "Tennessee on bubble". Then the highlights were most favorable with no mention about BP/NCAA issues.

My primary point is that yes, BP made a bad mistake, however, he deserves a chance for the process to run it's course, he's worth an awful lot to the University of Tennessee and overall great asset to Knoxville, AND has made Tennessee basketball regularly relevant again.

I still have some on the court concerns as far as recruiting and rotations. However, there is only so much you can do with certain players.
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you obviously are not paying attention when they start attacking our football program.
 
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#36
Guys, much more awful things go on in college sports than this. We act like this sort of thing is unheard of but I am here to tell you that college athletes do get paid and do receive improper benefits. But its just not brought up because the NCAA is aware that this stuff happens. A football player, who shall remain nameless, is in my Lab and tells me all the advantages there are of being a player. He said that one day, after talking about a new pair of shoes, he went back to his dorm and found a pair of Air Jordans with a $100 bill inside of them. How do you think all of these players have Dr. Dre headphones? Also, they have homework done for them, and are granted "cheat sheets" from professors. I am saying this for all of the naive vol fans out there who believe that programs run on pure integrity, when in reality, there are many other things that keep a program together. With the national spotlight on us and other major programs like auburn, we are the only ones getting caught. It happens EVERYWHERE. What Bruce has done has lost some respect from many, but once this is over, and he does keep his job, you better believe that he will come back with fire in his belly and will keep the watchful eye of the NCAA in mind. good luck to bruce and everyone else who bleed orange and white.
 
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People with integrity usually are pretty quiet. They listen more than they speak. Do people with integrity continually bash others for their shortcomings, disagreeing opinions or perceived lack of integrity? Rhetorical question, of course.
 
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Gator H8R said:
Winning has nothing to do with it. We barely beat a awful USC team last night. Not much to be excited about there. Ive stood behind him and will continue to until he is no longer the coach here, which I hope is a long time from now. Weve made the sweet sixteen twice and the elite 8 once in the last 5 years. Like I said, I cant overlook that.
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I think his wins and losses this year does play into it for some people. Guarantee he would have a lot less people piled on his ass right now if the record was any resemblence of the first 7 games.
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jp1 said:
I think his wins and losses this year does play into it for some people. Guarantee he would have a lot less people piled on his ass right now if the record was any resemblence of the first 7 games.
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True. But that statement was really in reference too the post saying people say we want BP to stay after a win and want him gone after a loss.
 
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Gator H8R said:
True. But that statement was really in reference too the post saying people say we want BP to stay after a win and want him gone after a loss.
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Yeah I got the point you were making.
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VolFanInHawaii said:
you obviously are not paying attention when they start attacking our football program.
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what do they attack? No title in a decade? Bad record the last few years? Coaching turmoil?

sorry but it's not an attack when it's all true
 
#42
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Manvol said:
That's not accurate. There can be no more aligations now he can be charged "show cause" but that is the penalty portion of all of this. Everything the NCAA has is in that letter. That's why I think we should wait it out. There is 2 sides to every story. I'll take BP side over the NCAA until it is not time to take his side.
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Actually, you are the one that is not accurate. Additional charges can be added. Not to say there will be additional charges added, but the NCAA does have the ability to add additional charges.
 
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utvolpj said:
what do they attack? No title in a decade? Bad record the last few years? Coaching turmoil?

sorry but it's not an attack when it's all true
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It is the unfair stuff that bothers me. You know, when they bring up hostesses, armed robberies, Nazis, late game buffoonery--that sort of thing.
 
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pl3 said:
People with integrity usually are pretty quiet. They listen more than they speak. Do people with integrity continually bash others for their shortcomings, disagreeing opinions or perceived lack of integrity? Rhetorical question, of course.
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People with integrity generally speak up when they see something they think unethical. That's what integrity is, doing what's right, not necessarily what's popular or easy.
 
#45
#45
BasketvolsFan said:
Actually, you are the one that is not accurate. Additional charges can be added. Not to say there will be additional charges added, but the NCAA does have the ability to add additional charges.
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Noooooooope. If there were more charges there would have to be another letter with those charges in it. What was in the letter is all the NCAA has on BP they would not have held anything back. GO VOLS..
 
#46
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Manvol said:
Secondary violations ........ cheating.........you can weigh those on the truth and justice scale foryourself but that's a slipery slope of aligations that would define the NCAA coaching profession. I'll let Pearl have his day in the NCAA court before I start throwing out moral conclusions before knowing what has been won or lost in the appeals.
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It would have been just secondary violations, but then he lied. As far as his day in NCAA court, hasn't he already admitted guilt about the lying? And if they can prove he tried to get recruits and their parents to lie for him, then he could be really screwed.
 
#47
#47
VolGraduate said:
You guys are right. Winning is the bottom line even if it requires cheating. If you're not cheating you're not trying. Integrity? That's such a 90s way to win
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Yeah, but shouldn't the cheating produce a better record than this????? CBP needs to sharpen his skills.:)
 
#48
#48
I like what CBP has done with the BB program. I've enjoyed the success. But this idea that winning at all costs is all that matters is ludicrous. He's the coach. He represents the university and by committing these violations he's tarnished our reputation. He also sets the example for the players. If it's okay for him to break rules, then he commits hypocrisy when he disciplines the players for breaking rules. I don't like the message that is being sent, and just because "every one does it" doesn't sit well with me.
 
#49
#49
Weezer said:
It would have been just secondary violations, but then he lied. As far as his day in NCAA court, hasn't he already admitted guilt about the lying? And if they can prove he tried to get recruits and their parents to lie for him, then he could be really screwed.
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That's what I'm saying "IF" they can prove he told everyone to lie. From some of the information I have been told, he has a strong arguement that he did not tell everyone to lie. What he said may have been worded completly different. I am not saying he didn't lie to the NCAA but the "bump" & "conspiracy" for all to lie may not be accurate. Again I'm supporting Pearl until it is time not to support him. He has a chance to appeal all of these items so let it play out. GO VOLS!
 
#50
#50
Griff finaly reporting that UT will be appeal the "bump" officialy.
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