ESPN Tennessee spring wrap

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Lol Mizzou will not win the east... Who does Mauk have to throw to? He will be exposed big time
 
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sjt18 said:
What confuses me more is how someone can expect Mizzou not to drop off in a major way considering they lost 7 of their top 10 tacklers to include their best DB, best LB, and their two best DL's. They lost 76% of their receiving yards including their top 3 who were by far the most talented guys they had. They lost their top RB. They lost their starting QB. They lost their best OL.

They are literally in a rebuilding position almost as difficult as UT has been... and they haven't been signing classes even close to as talented as UT's last one.... or two. Mizzou's best class of the last 4 years ranked 11th in the SEC. If recruiting rankings mean anything at all, there will be a cost to them this fall.
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Losing Beckham to the drug dealing charges really hurt them . I don't know if he was returning for senior season or not. Some are projecting Mizz to take the SEC East, I don't think so. I think we take them at Neyland as our young players will be maturing by the time we play them.
 
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AV_12 said:
Lol Mizzou will not win the east... Who does Mauk have to throw to? He will be exposed big time
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exactly...he threw for like 50% last yr which was worse than Worley and Dobbs. He just had a ton of weapons. he doesnt have any of those guys back now nor does he have Henry Josey
 
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sjt18 said:
What confuses me more is how someone can expect Mizzou not to drop off in a major way considering they lost 7 of their top 10 tacklers to include their best DB, best LB, and their two best DL's. They lost 76% of their receiving yards including their top 3 who were by far the most talented guys they had. They lost their top RB. They lost their starting QB. They lost their best OL.

They are literally in a rebuilding position almost as difficult as UT has been... and they haven't been signing classes even close to as talented as UT's last one.... or two. Mizzou's best class of the last 4 years ranked 11th in the SEC. If recruiting rankings mean anything at all, there will be a cost to them this fall.
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Correct in lost production/playmakers, but they obviously have a formula for squeezing more out of less or see more than scouts because they haven't ranked well in recruiting for many years now - yet that didn't stop the success they had last year. Gary Pinkel has been there for 13-14 years now and seemingly has a good system in place. At worst I would put a question mark on them; I wouldn't go as far as to say count them out of the mix.

Class Rank Per Rivals:
2009 - 40
2010 - 21
2011 - 48
2012 - 31
2013 - 41
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
A similar prediction was most likely given by nearly all analysts for the 2013 season following their 5-7 performance in 2012, yet we saw how that went.
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But give that a little thought. UT lost their starting QB just before MU and just after he began to move the O. UF was missing a bunch of players. UGA was missing a bunch of players. Even Vandy had injuries going into that game, right?

They were charmed more than good.

That said, their team last year was getting some of their better players back from injuries in '12. This year they lose a ton of production.
 
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Hamptonvolfan said:
Losing Beckham to the drug dealing charges really hurt them . I don't know if he was returning for senior season or not. Some are projecting Mizz to take the SEC East, I don't think so. I think we take them at Neyland as our young players will be maturing by the time we play them.
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IMHO, they are going to struggle to make a bowl and that even accounting for the weakest OOC schedule in the East AND getting Arkansas for their West opponent. I see 5 games on their schedule that I would call likely wins. Only one UK and Ark in the SEC.

They rose fast. I think they'll fall faster.
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
Correct in lost production/playmakers, but they obviously have a formula for squeezing more out of less or see more than scouts because they haven't ranked well in recruiting for many years now - yet that didn't stop the success they had last year. Gary Pinkel has been there for 13-14 years now and seemingly has a good system in place. At worst I would put a question mark on them; I wouldn't go as far as to say count them out of the mix.

Class Rank Per Rivals:
2009 - 40
2010 - 21
2011 - 48
2012 - 31
2013 - 41
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Answer honestly. Of these position groups vs UT, which do you think Mizzou is in better shape at:

OL
RB
QB
WR
TE
DL
LB
DB

I'd say maybe OL and possibly a push at DL. The rest, UT is more talented and has more depth of talent.
 
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sjt18 said:
But give that a little thought. UT lost their starting QB just before MU and just after he began to move the O. UF was missing a bunch of players. UGA was missing a bunch of players. Even Vandy had injuries going into that game, right?

They were charmed more than good.

That said, their team last year was getting some of their better players back from injuries in '12. This year they lose a ton of production.
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I find no fault in what you stated; but saying it would be a miracle for Mizzou to finish 3rd is a pretty strong statement (not made by you).

There's a lot of personnel changes for all teams this year in the east. It will be interesting to see how things shake out to say the least.
 
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sjt18 said:
Answer honestly. Of these position groups vs UT, which do you think Mizzou is in better shape at:

OL
RB
QB
WR
TE
DL
LB
DB

I'd say maybe OL and possibly a push at DL. The rest, UT is more talented and has more depth of talent.
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I don't disagree with you, I'm just saying from a high level look, recruiting rankings don't appear to correlate directly to wins in the case with Mizzou. They (based on class rankings) do not recruit that amazingly yet have had decent & somewhat consistent success. There's much to be said about coaching continuity there and it's positive effects.
 
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All I know is that, know I all is that, it's that, it's coming. Churning in the early stages of it's development. Roaring it's rage at being fettered for so long. Thundering, throwing angry sparks at being confined but now no longer. It's coming, it's coming:

https://vimeo.com/93412147
 
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They need to realign the conference since we have Mizzou and A&M. Move Ole Miss or Miss St to the Eastern division (which ever is farther east) and have Mizzou in the West, since they are west of the Mississippi River. It should be truly geographical. MSU and Ole Miss may never compete forthe Western Division, but they could still have the annual Egg Bowl at the end anyway.
 
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sjt18 said:
What confuses me more is how someone can expect Mizzou not to drop off in a major way considering they lost 7 of their top 10 tacklers to include their best DB, best LB, and their two best DL's. They lost 76% of their receiving yards including their top 3 who were by far the most talented guys they had. They lost their top RB. They lost their starting QB. They lost their best OL.

They are literally in a rebuilding position almost as difficult as UT has been... and they haven't been signing classes even close to as talented as UT's last one.... or two. Mizzou's best class of the last 4 years ranked 11th in the SEC. If recruiting rankings mean anything at all, there will be a cost to them this fall.
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We'll beat Missouri! We'll be hitting our stride like teams of the past when we play them.
 
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Freak said:
"It's been a while since Tennessee last enjoyed a winning season. The Vols were 7-6 in 2009, Lane Kiffin's only season in Knoxville. This team is still way too young with too many question marks on both lines of scrimmage to predict a winning regular season. But the Vols will find a way to beat one of the Big Three in the East -- Florida, Georgia or South Carolina -- and at least manage a bowl berth."

NCAAF Tennessee spring wrap - ESPN
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So he predicts we'll do exactly the same thing we did last year. Way to be brave.
 
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sjt18 said:
IMHO, they are going to struggle to make a bowl and that even accounting for the weakest OOC schedule in the East AND getting Arkansas for their West opponent. I see 5 games on their schedule that I would call likely wins. Only one UK and Ark in the SEC.

They rose fast. I think they'll fall faster.
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Arkansas's their permanent cross-division opponent now, starting this season. The team they get for their rotating west opponent is A&M.

That said, I'm not sure why you see vanderbilt beating them.

(Heck, who knows how A&M is going to be without Manziel, or even UCF without Bortles)
 
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volfaninutah said:
They need to realign the conference since we have Mizzou and A&M. Move Ole Miss or Miss St to the Eastern division (which ever is farther east) and have Mizzou in the West, since they are west of the Mississippi River. It should be truly geographical. MSU and Ole Miss may never compete forthe Western Division, but they could still have the annual Egg Bowl at the end anyway.
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If you're a stickler for the geography actually matching the division names, that's still going to pose problems. You'd have an EAST team to the WEST of two western division teams.

The division names are just that, names. That's all.
 
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sjt18 said:
But give that a little thought. UT lost their starting QB just before MU and just after he began to move the O. UF was missing a bunch of players. UGA was missing a bunch of players. Even Vandy had injuries going into that game, right?

They were charmed more than good.

That said, their team last year was getting some of their better players back from injuries in '12. This year they lose a ton of production.
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No, Vandy didn't (to the best of my recollection). Vandy just got half a hundred hung on them was the story of that game.


As far as UF goes, I think they were missing two, weren't they? Driskel and that DT...I could be mistaken on that, but I think the further injuries with UF started either that game or the game or two after.



At the same time though, they were good enough that they went to 2-3 OT with South Carolina. Plus, I mean, I'm not by any means a fan of that team...but, at the same time, a team doesn't go through the regular season with only 1 loss just off of luck alone.


The lucky part might have been that the schedule didn't have them playing Alabama or LSU, however.
 
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overseasorange said:
Not to be a bummer. But isn't it impossible to go to a bowl without having a regular winning season?:ermm:
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If you mean 6-6 isn't technically a winning season, yes.


If you mean as in 5-7, that requires a whole bunch of hoops that have to be jumped through...relating to a whole lot of other teams across college football that season, first.
 
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