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GBO97

GBO97

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Something tells me our administration will pull a UF football and keep him anyway. I don't think Hart and Cheek care enough to make a change, or if they do, I can't see them being perceptive enough to #bbb. Still keeping hopes up though. GBO
 
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SlyStone said:
$1.56 mil buyout may be why they keep him an additional year.
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That would be a stupid reason to keep him considering they will probably end losing more than that with him at the helm next year, and they could make a lot more than that with a good hire.
 
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I'm sure one of the many donors would pony up a measly 1.56 million to get Martin the hell out of here.
 
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GBO97 said:
Something tells me our administration will pull a UF football and keep him anyway. I don't think Hart and Cheek care enough to make a change, or if they do, I can't see them being perceptive enough to #bbb. Still keeping hopes up though. GBO
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Big difference in this and the UF football situation. Muschamp went 4-8 but the year before made it to the Sugar Bowl and went 11-2. He at least has shown he can make a BCS bowl so that got him one more year.

If Martin had made the NCAAT in one of the previous 2 seasons, he'd likely definitely be back next season.
 
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SlyStone said:
$1.56 mil buyout may be why they keep him an additional year.
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It could be more if they keep him, depending on what is done. Hart didn't extend him last year, and if they retain him and don't give him an extension, then he is a lame duck coach. That is unheard of in college. They have to give him an extension if they keep him because he wouldn't be able to recruit. You would be setting him up for failure for another year.

This is the reason why you have to make a decision this year for the future. If they keep him, then Hart believes he is the man for the job. No other way around it.

If you are CCM, then you either demand an extension or tell them to pay his $1.6 million buyout.
 
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Colleges across the nation need to eliminate buy out clauses from all coaching contracts. It's way to expensive to reward failure these days. :loco: :crazy:
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Big difference in this and the UF football situation. Muschamp went 4-8 but the year before made it to the Sugar Bowl and went 11-2. He at least has shown he can make a BCS bowl so that got him one more year.

If Martin had made the NCAAT in one of the previous 2 seasons, he'd likely definitely be back next season.
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That's what I was thinking also.
 
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You can't keep him if he doesn't make tourney.
He will not get an extension or raise, which will virtually kill him in recruiting any big names.

He has some decent recruits signed, but no game changers and none rated where you like if you expect to move the program forward. The conference stinks outside of UF. Even UK is not great considering the talent level. And yet, he is at .500.
 
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If we don't buy out CCM or extend him you say our recruiting and program will go to hell. I say we see what we have then, it can't be a great deal worse. If this is not the solution, then do what it takes to get Pearl or equal here NOW.;)
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Inaccurate assumption made by our fanbase IMO.
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True. Donors don't want to pay buyouts. They want to donate toward the construction of nice new facilities that will bare their names. There is nothing tangible in a buyout. That is just money pi$$ed away over someone else's mistake.
 
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orangeluvr said:
Colleges across the nation need to eliminate buy out clauses from all coaching contracts. It's way to expensive to reward failure these days. :loco: :crazy:
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The buyout also goes against the coach if he leaves early. It's not the actual buyout clause that is the problem. It's the AD who agrees to the terrible terms of the buyout. Hamilton extended Dooley's buyout another year after year one, and that $5 million buyout was awful, especially since year one was Dooley's best year.
 
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rickyyrs said:
Great, he can not win games with Stokes, Maymon, and Mcrae. Got alot to look forward to for next year. :no::banghead2:
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Keeping Martin another year would cost much more than his buy out. We will reach Wade Houston level program wise with another year. Next season will be a disaster and his lame-duck status will not allow him to recruit any decent players. A new coach after next season would be re-building from scratch at that point. Expect the curtains to come back next season if Martin returns. UT can't afford not to buy him out.
 
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GBO97 said:
I don't think Hart and Cheek care enough to make a change
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What have you seen (or not seen) from Hart to make you think he doesn't care enough? Seems like a fairly disrespectful position to take, particularly given the generally positive early returns on Jones and Serrano.
 
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hart didn't hire Martin and he isn't going to hang on to a guy who isn't getting the job done on or off the court.

Martin is already gone and I think he knows it.
 
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GBO97 said:
Something tells me our administration will pull a UF football and keep him anyway. I don't think Hart and Cheek care enough to make a change, or if they do, I can't see them being perceptive enough to #bbb. Still keeping hopes up though. GBO
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If we miss the big dance, put a fork in him cause he's done. After this year he'll have only two years left on his contract, so they either have to extend him or fire him and there's no way he's getting an extension after the team underachieved as badly as it has.
 
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if Pearl wants to come back so bad, I say make him pay half

In all seriousness, the proof was last year when Martin asked for an extension and raise...he got a tiny bump but no extension. If Hart didn't care about basketball or believed he was the man for the job, he would have extended him and didn't so that says a lot. Martin is finished imo
 
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