Every SEC team is hiring...

[VolGee4]

Thats another piece. i remember when Buzz Peterson was here he often mentioned the biggest challenge of coaching here was that the states biggest pool of talent is about 6.5 hours away. Thus making it closer to several schools than UT

In basketball, the main competition in Memphis is the University of Memphis. While OM, MSU, and Alabama are closer and may get the occasional Memphis player, they will not get elite talent because they are not elite basketball schools. Arkansas and UT are nearly the same distance from Memphis, so Arkansas does not have that advantage. The only reason Arkansas had a leg up for a while in the 90's was because Richardson got several on that championship team (Day, Beck, Stewart).

 

[jkleno]

I like how folks mention Mizzous Elite 8s and LSUs Final 4s. However thinks Arkansas with a National Championship in the modern era wouldn't have them in front of us. I would rank as follows.

1. Kentucky
2.Florida
3.Arkansas
4a.Missouri
4B.Tennessee
4C. LSU
7a.Alabama
7b.Georgia
7c.Vanderbilt
10.Mississippi St
11a.Auburn
11b.Texas A&M
13.South Carolina
14.Ole Miss

Dude- I said Ark was light years ahead of UT??? What are you talking about?

 

[ncvol17]

wow, an occupation that cannot be off shored, that must burn the CEO's of the country..

 

[sport3500]

1. Kentucky
2. Florida
3. Tennessee
4. Georgia (Because of recruiting)
5. Missouri
6. Vanderbilt
7. Alabama
8. LSU
9. Ole Miss
10. MSU
11. Arkansas
12. Texas A%M
13. South Carolina
14. Auburn

 

[TNnative]

Your question has no reference to it. You should probably state whether it be football or basketball. Or as a coach or working in the athletic department as the A.D. But, I think you mean basketball by your rankings. I would probably put UT 5th. UK would be #1 and with the success from UF over the past decade they are becoming one of the top 5 or 10 programs in the nation. I would put Mizzou and Arky at #3 and #4 they just seem to take mens basketball more seriously than UT did historically. The UT basketball program isn't an easy program to get top recruits to come year in and year out. We have to battle a "basketball school" with Memphis instate and usually the more talented players out the state come from Memphis. Then Geography doesn't do whole lot for us either, you got Duke, UNC, UK and UL all in our backyard battling for the top players out of the south. With that being said we do have great facilities and gigantic arena to play home games in (Thank you Pat). With all of the above makes me feel like UT is the 5th best job in the SEC.

Not to argue, but since this is the basketball forum, did he need to reference?

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

Dude- I said Ark was light years ahead of UT??? What are you talking about?

I didn't say everyone just anyone that believes we have the best overall luster attraction for a coach to come here if all 14 jobs came available at once.

 

[NYC Vol]

Not sure why everyone has Fla automatically at #2. It will be interesting to see how that program does once Donovan leaves. The fanbase is pretty crappy and their facilities aren't that great.

I'm not saying they're not #2. Just saying it's some food for thought.

 

[Roustabout]

In bball, recruiting base means virtually nothing. Georgia is a horrible job. Miss State had no idea what they had in Stansbury.

UT is definitely top 5.

 

[Velo Vol]

Why is Florida a better job than Tennessee?

 

[508mikey]

Kentucky is only good because of Calipari

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

Why is Florida a better job than Tennessee?

Look at difference in banners.

 

[GatorsGators]

Arkansas' 6 trips to the Final Four and ONE NC is light years ahead of UT Basketball's 1 Final 8 appearance.

This isn't a "who has the best history" thread.

Arkansas hasn't been relevant since the 90s and has pretty much no recruiting base.

Georgia has a great recruiting base, but that's literally all it has going for it. They have crappy history, crappy fan support, and their administration doesn't seem to take basketball seriously.

I'd rank the jobs:

1. UK
2. UF
3. Missouri
4. UT

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5. LSU
6. Vanderbilt
7. Arkansas
8. Alabama
9. Georgia

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10. Texas A&M
11. Mississippi State
12. Ole Miss
13. Auburn
14. South Carolina

 

[HialeahGator]

Not sure why everyone has Fla automatically at #2. It will be interesting to see how that program does once Donovan leaves. The fanbase is pretty crappy and their facilities aren't that great.

I'm not saying they're not #2. Just saying it's some food for thought.

lol the O'dome is about to get a make over but as a visiting team its top 3 hardest arena to play in. Fans are crappy? have you watched the RR's the last two season? Everyteam has been down in home attendance but UF(up 11%). As for sucking when Billy leaves UF will have first shot at RPjr or Shakka lots of great coaches came through Gville under BD. UF has become a national brand and Fla has tons of instate talent. Finally 2 NC, 5 final fours and reaching Elite 8 last 4yr speaks for itself.
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[HBCButch]

as of right now, how would you rank the teams for best place to be hired?

Where would you place TN?

Here is mine.

1. KY
2. FL
3. MZ
4. TN
5. AR
6. Vandy
7. LSU
8. GA
9. BAMA
10. TX AM
11. Ole Miss
12. Auburn
13. SC
14. Miss St.

Further down than 4th. If you asked which team you'd like to take and mold with resources, a good fanbase and kids to recruit. I'd pick UGA.

 

[Vercingetorix]

A lot of you guys underestimate how well Tennessee supports basketball. As much as everyone's complaining about attendance, we're still second in the conference behind Kentucky -- just as we were all the way through the Houston/Buzz years. We have great facilities. We were willing to pay Pearl championship-level money, so presumably we'd be willing to pay that again. Atlanta and Nashville are both less than three hours away. There's no reason we shouldn't be one of the top jobs in this conference.

Further down than 4th. If you asked which team you'd like to take and mold with resources, a good fanbase and kids to recruit. I'd pick UGA.

What resources? What fanbase? The leghumpers don't give a crap about basketball. They barely draw 6000 a game.

 

[HBCButch]

A lot of you guys underestimate how well Tennessee supports basketball. As much as everyone's complaining about attendance, we're still second in the conference behind Kentucky -- just as we were all the way through the Houston/Buzz years. We have great facilities. We were willing to pay Pearl championship-level money, so presumably we'd be willing to pay that again. Atlanta and Nashville are both less than three hours away. There's no reason we shouldn't be one of the top jobs in this conference.



What resources? What fanbase? The leghumpers don't give a crap about basketball. They barely draw 6000 a game.

GA has resources and a fanbase that will follow a winner. You get a great coach in there that will scoop up all the good players in GA and it's a game changer. If I'm Pearl, that's where I go if they fire Fox.

 

[Vercingetorix]

GA has resources and a fanbase that will follow a winner. You get a great coach in there that will scoop up all the good players in GA and it's a game changer. If I'm Pearl, that's where I go if they fire Fox.

Mark Fox is a great example of how the Georgia job is a dead end. He went to the tournament three times at Nevada; he won a couple of tournament games. He was considered an excellent hire at the time. He came in, turned Georgia around by winning 20 games and an NCAA game in his second year.....and then it never went anywhere. Only 6000-7000 people still came to the games. He still couldn't get many players out of Atlanta. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope came and went like a 3 AM bedfart. Now people are speculating about when he's going to get fired. It's extremely difficult to build any momentum at a program where basketball is such an afterthought.

I don't know if you live anywhere down here or not, but you can't really overstate how little Georgia fans care about basketball. We were drawing 14,000 at the height of Buzzball. They only drew half that the year they won 20 games -- and the university's lack of investment in basketball reflects that apathy. Remember how Pearl came to UT and got the UTAD to build the Pratt Pavilion? There's zero chance something like that happens in Athens. Nobody there cares enough.

 

[GAVol]

Mark Fox is a great example of how the Georgia job is a dead end. He went to the tournament three times at Nevada; he won a couple of tournament games. He was considered an excellent hire at the time. He came in, turned Georgia around by winning 20 games and an NCAA game in his second year.....and then it never went anywhere. Only 6000-7000 people still came to the games. He still couldn't get many players out of Atlanta. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope came and went like a 3 AM bedfart. Now people are speculating about when he's going to get fired. It's extremely difficult to build any momentum at a program where basketball is such an afterthought.

I don't know if you live anywhere down here or not, but you can't really overstate how little Georgia fans care about basketball. We were drawing 14,000 at the height of Buzzball. They only drew half that the year they won 20 games -- and the university's lack of investment in basketball reflects that apathy. Remember how Pearl came to UT and got the UTAD to build the Pratt Pavilion? There's zero chance something like that happens in Athens. Nobody there cares enough.

Amen from top to bottom. They struck gold much the way we did with Bruce Pearl when they landed Tubby Smith and then he bolted for Kentucky. 17 years later, the program is still wandering in the wilderness and nobody gives a crap.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Amen from top to bottom. They struck gold much the way we did with Bruce Pearl when they landed Tubby Smith and then he bolted for Kentucky. 17 years later, the program is still wandering in the wilderness and nobody gives a crap.

And Georgia was only drawing about 7000 a game while Tubby was there too. They just do not give a crap at all over there about basketball.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

Tennessee above Missouri

Bwhahahahaha.

Elite 8's 5 to 1
Conference Tourney Titles 8 to 4
Conference Titles 15 to 9 (better conference)
STL 2hrs away - Memphis 6hrs away
Plus no major in state competition for recruits/resources

Get off the east TN meth.

 

[Vercingetorix]

I'm sure there's no meth in Kentucky at all.

6.5 hours to Memphis isn't the metric. Knoxville is three hours to Atlanta, and I'd as soon be three hours to Atlanta's basketball talent than two hours to St. Louis's. Plus I lived in Columbia, Missouri for a year. All the girls smelled like cowsh!t.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

I'm sure there's no meth in Kentucky at all.

I lived in Columbia, Missouri for a year. All the girls smelled like cowsh!t.

Yes, there's a lot. But I'm not from there, nor do I live there anymore nor am I the one who thinks UT is a better job than Mizzou.

I'm sure coaches consider how coeds smell when they're considering a job.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Yes, there's a lot. But I'm not from there, nor do I live there anymore nor am I the one who thinks UT is a better job than Mizzou.

I'm sure coaches consider how coeds smell when they're considering a job.

I certainly don't think that the UT basketball job is better than the Mizzou job, but I don't think the difference is as laughable as you do. Mizzou was obviously one of the top basketball programs in the country 20 years ago, but they've fallen off a lot since then. Tennessee has better facilities. Tennessee has better fan support. (Fewer than 9000 of those farmers bother go to the games.) Knoxville is a vastly better place to live than Columbia. Mizzou is two hours from St. Louis, but Knoxville is three hours away from both Atlanta and Nashville, so that's at least a push. Pearl proved you can win here as well as Mizzou has the last couple decades. Mizzou obviously has more tradition and history of success, but as we've seen in football, that doesn't necessarily mean crap when you're trying to hire a coach. I'd rank them 1 UK, 2 UF, 3 MU [1], 4 UT. With the gap between 2 and 3 being a lot bigger than the gap between 3 and 4.



[1] This is, stupidly, what they call themselves.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

I certainly don't think that the UT basketball job is better than the Mizzou job, but I don't think the difference is as laughable as you do. Mizzou was obviously one of the top basketball programs in the country 20 years ago, but they've fallen off a lot since then. Tennessee has better facilities. Tennessee has better fan support. (Fewer than 9000 of those farmers bother go to the games.) Knoxville is a vastly better place to live than Columbia. Mizzou is two hours from St. Louis, but Knoxville is three hours away from both Atlanta and Nashville, so that's at least a push. Pearl proved you can win here as well as Mizzou has the last couple decades. Mizzou obviously has more tradition and history of success, but as we've seen in football, that doesn't necessarily mean crap when you're trying to hire a coach. I'd rank them 1 UK, 2 UF, 3 MU [1], 4 UT. With the gap between 2 and 3 being a lot bigger than the gap between 3 and 4.



[1] This is, stupidly, what they call themselves.

The laughable part was for BTO in general. God bless his optimism but he's the biggest homer on this board when it comes to UT basketball. If you critique any aspect of this team or staff he's there with smartass stats to back up his claims.

 

[Kusotate]

The laughable part was for BTO in general. God bless his optimism but he's the biggest homer on this board when it comes to UT basketball. If you critique any aspect of this team or staff he's there with smartass stats to back up his claims.

Can't forget the infamous :hi: