Evidence for the case that Obozo is a communist infiltrator.

[utvolpj]

So you paint the people who believe that Obama is a Socialist as uneducated hillbillies.

actually he said you're one step away from it so you're a little off base

 

[CountVolcula]

Can you read? Do you have any ability whatsoever to comprehend words and sentences?

Is that the only response you seriously can muster? Accusing me of saying something that anyone in their right mind is plainly aware that I did not say?

If that's your argument, you aren't going to get far and it's no surprise you hold the views you do.

Terms you used to describe people who believe Obama is a Socialist/Communist

Hillbilly with no teeth
Nutjob
Brainless

Did I miss any?

 

[OrangeEmpire]

If you read what I say here closely, you will note that I am careful to say that not everyone within an organization or a movement can be characterized a certain way. And I think it goes without saying that, even as to those that could, there are going to be degrees of it.

Also, I have frequently noted that racism is not always about dislike or hatred of another race, in fact these days it is largely a proxy for other things, such as disdain for that segment of the population that many feel is overusing and abusing the entitlement system.

Case in point: I've read a number of people arguing in the last few days that the Dems are racist because they keep blacks on welfare by promoting social programs.

Obviously, the assumption within that is that blacks are more likely, not just to be on welfare (use the term loosely), but abusing and misusing welfare.

What underlies my point is that it becomes so easy to see a poor black person as a proxy for entitlement abuse, not working, drain on my taxes, etc., and to assume that the fact of race and class status compels the conclusion that it is likely that person is on and abusing social programs.

It becomes circular and all too convenient to believe that a poor black person is more likely to be costing you money in the form of taxes. Let me ask: I wonder how much MORE the wealthy white doctor costs you in taxes via Medicare overuse or billing than does the other guy on the other side of the tracks.

All I ask is that people think about their own suppositions along the way. Me included.

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[CountVolcula]

actually he said you're one step away from it so you're a little off base

so they are pre-hillbilly with no teeth being anally probed by aliens

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Obama is not friends with Bill Ayers. You guys wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you in the face. You believe what you want to believe regardless of facts. Guilt by association is a myth anyway. EVERY politician has some kind of connection, be it large, small or insignificant, with someone not highly thought-of or looked upon.

Your conclusion that by association, Obama is a communist has no logical foundation.

I would have to say there is a strong case for guilt by association because Obama prints and spends money like a drunken sailor.

:hi:

 

[gsvol]

You forgot to add your goofy pictues with each thread!

Oops, my bad.

Happy now??

 

[VolInMn]

His what is even dumber?

Sweet, sweet irony.

 

[CountVolcula]

Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963


45 Communist Goals in America

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
washingtonpost.com

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

http://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N. Occurred Oct 5. 1971

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.


16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. Sean Penn and some of his cronies ring a bell

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
Now what does Obama call that? Thats right "Civilian National Security Force"

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

 

[CountVolcula]

Obama is not friends with Bill Ayers. You guys wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you in the face. You believe what you want to believe regardless of facts. Guilt by association is a myth anyway. EVERY politician has some kind of connection, be it large, small or insignificant, with someone not highly thought-of or looked upon.

Your conclusion that by association, Obama is a communist has no logical foundation.

Obama Needs to Explain His Ties to William Ayers - Michael Barone (usnews.com)

 

[gsvol]

Oh Gnos! They've infiltrated the commuter industry!!!

Soros is cleaning up buying banking chains in America that are being put out of business by the FDIC aka the Federal Reserve, but that doesn't bother sheeple like you one bit.

We just need us some good old fashioned Senate hearings. That'll get to the bottom of it.

:lolabove:

Now that is funny.

I wish you guys would make up your mind about whether Obama is a Socialist, Communist, Marxist, Maoist, Seekrit Muslin or something else.

It makes it extremely hard for those of us at home to follow along.

Just call him unAmerican and be done with it, there now, does that make it easier for the simpletons??

I agree somewhat, but the Socialist, Communist, Marxist and Maoist just aren't very different. Sure they have differences, but in the end, the gov't calls all the shots - literally.

Totalitarian, exactly.

Woodrow Wilson was the first socialist president............. man how I hate Wilson!

Oh wait, don't tell me you are knocking Bill Cliton's hero, the one he describes as the greatest of all American presidents. (he probably ranks Jimmy Carter second, I guess none of the media ever thought to ask.)

 

[gsvol]

His what is even dumber?

Sweet, sweet irony.

Ass????

Ironay perhaps, but a highly appropriate response to 66's dum-bass comment.

 

[bam15]

gsv.. Joseph McCarthy.

 

[CountVolcula]

gsv.. Joseph McCarthy.

Where have you been?

My guess was you were at the Boston tea party in infiltration mode.

Which one of those quotes were you responsible for in VolINMNs thread?

 

[gsvol]

Obama Needs to Explain His Ties to William Ayers - Michael Barone (usnews.com)

William Ayres and his Manson loving wife should be prosecuted for murder.

 

[gsvol]

gsv.. Joseph McCarthy.

I'll rub your nose in it all day every day and whether or not you ever smell anything, at least you'll have it all over your nose for everyone to see.

American Thinker: Justice Department to San Francisco Police: Shut Up!

Eric Holder, still hiding from the Philly Black Panthers case | Washington Examiner

Eric Holder, Bill Clinton, Wright's 'Black Liberation' "church", and the pardons of 16 members of the Puerto Rican Marxist terrorist group FALNWright's Marxist BLT 'church' (Obama's 'church' for 20+ years) advocated for FALN terrorists)
Eric Holder, Clinton, Wright's BL "church" and the pardons of the PR Marxist terror group FALN


During the 1970s and 1980s, FALN members set off at least 138 bombs in five major U.S. Cities. Six Americans were killed in those attacks. One of those bombings, in January 1975, was at the historic Fraunces Tavern in lower Manhattan while patrons were at lunch. The explosion killed four and injured more than 50."

RealClearPolitics - Articles - Hillary, Terrorism and the FALN

"Fraunces Tavern is a restaurant and museum in lower Manhattan, New York City. It was built on the site of a former building which played a significant role in pre-Revolutionary activities, and in which, on 4 December 1783, General George Washington bade farewell to his officers at the end of the Revolution, before returning to his home, Mount Vernon."
Fraunces Tavern - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The FALN and the Macheteros are nothing but Communist revolutionaries. Both groups were organized by Fidel Castro's secret police. The ultimate goal of the FALN and the Macheteros is the creation of an independent Marxist-Leninist dictatorship on the island of Puerto Rico."
Clinton's sympathy for Marxist terrorists

Eric Holder's role in the pardons of BLA (Black Liberation Army) comrades/Weather Underground members, Susan Rosenberg and Linda Evans (1983 Brinks Truck robbery and triple murder):
Holder's role in the pardons of BLA comrades/Weather Underground members, Rosenberg and Evans

"This is an excerpt from a 1982 CBC documentary ("No Place To Hide") on the KGB activities in North America. This portion concerns the ties between the Weathermen and the DGI (Cuban Intelligence) - By the way take special note of what is said at 1:14, 1:23, and 9:06"
[formation of the "Black Liberation Front" in Cuba, 1964]
YouTube - The Real Story of the Weathermen

 

[gsvol]

I agree somewhat, but the Socialist, Communist, Marxist and Maoist just aren't very different. Sure they have differences, but in the end, the gov't calls all the shots - literally.

You can include faschist in that group, they were/are also promoters of socialism.

BPV you should know about this than me, would you care to venture an opinion about the following??

Special army unit ready to be deployed on American soil just before Nov. elections (Update)

 

[CountVolcula]

You can include faschist in that group, they were/are also promoters of socialism.

BPV you should know about this than me, would you care to venture an opinion about the following??

Special army unit ready to be deployed on American soil just before Nov. elections (Update)

My best friend, who is active military now, spoke about this very thing.