Evina denied

[DonDiego]

Perhaps they took into consideration the fact there has never been a claim (that I'm aware of) that the LVBB program ever ignored or took advantage of one of the players who may have had an injury. Still, there could be pressure applied. Guess we'll see.

 

[CannonVol80]

Her mother made that statement before the outburst....After that statement, it was obvious she was gone, and then the outburst....At least that is how I remember it.

You are correct about the timing of the statement and that it was made by Westbrook's mother. And I agree that it was fairly obvious that Evina would be leaving the program at that point. However, I wouldn't classify Evina's response to the repeated questions of the reporters as an outburst. My recollection was that she was reticent in her initial response and when they pressed she made an unfortunate comment. I actually blame the coaching staff and administration more for that than a young player who had just suffered an agonizing defeat. In my opinion, reporters should never have been allowed into the locker room to hound any of the players under those circumstances and the AD staff should have put an end to it when they saw what was going on.

Jim

 

[BowlBrother85]

You are correct about the timing of the statement and that it was made by Westbrook's mother. And I agree that it was fairly obvious that Evina would be leaving the program at that point. However, I wouldn't classify Evina's response to the repeated questions of the reporters as an outburst. My recollection was that she was reticent in her initial response and when they pressed she made an unfortunate comment. I actually blame the coaching staff and administration more for that than a young player who had just suffered an agonizing defeat. In my opinion, reporters should never have been allowed into the locker room to hound any of the players under those circumstances and the AD staff should have put an end to it when they saw what was going on.

Jim

That is ridiculous. She is an adult and responsible for her own words/actions. Being interviewed after games is part of being a member of a major college basketball team and none of the questions she was asked were unfair or unreasonable. The reporters weren't "hounding" anyone. They were doing their jobs. There is nothing wrong with holding an adult accountable for their words. Nobody forced her to say that, or put words in her mouth.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Perhaps they took into consideration the fact there has never been a claim (that I'm aware of) that the LVBB program ever ignored or took advantage of one of the players who may have had an injury. Still, there could be pressure applied. Guess we'll see.

I think Tennessee's track record is pretty good. The list of disgruntled former Lady Vol basketball players over the last 20 years is a short one. I can only think of one - Sade Wiley-Gatewood, maybe? I can't think of anyone who has ever accused the Lady Vol basketball program of unethical conduct, let alone something that might be harmful to the health and well-being of a player. Read what Jannah Tucker had to say about Holly Warlick's considerable concern and care for her ordeal, and she never even played a game for Tennessee.

 

[stlvolsfan]

Don’t know reasoning but does not seem equitable. Flame away, but she’s just an unhappy kid. Let her transfer and play. Any kid the same.

People hold that interview against her, but she just said a change needed to be made. Not change coaches, dismiss players, etc. And there did need to be a change.

Wish she had given Kellie a chance, but so what. Leave and be happy. Better than stay and be unhappy. For all involved.

per: Evina Westbrook’s transfer request is denied

Same thing for Destiny Littleton, she was an unhappy kid but she was denied. Why is everyone making a martyr out of Evina. She knew the chances were high that she would be required to sit out. So many “superstars” are handed a lot of things, hopefully this adversity will build some character. Plus, I’m pretty sure the appeal will get overturned anyway. Geno gets what Geno wants.

 

[creekdipper]

Plus, I’m pretty sure the appeal will get overturned anyway. Geno gets what Geno wants.

If Ego ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.

 

[Memvol44]

Let the girl play......

 

[BowlBrother85]

Let the girl play......

Good lord, she will get to play. It is not unreasonable to expect her to sit out a year first, as most transfers were required to do until very recently. Why should she be considered special? The reason for her transfer had nothing to do with the coaching change. She did not even wait to see who we hired. She was transferring regardless of who our coach was. She is not a victim in this.

 

[Volfan2012]

I think they need to make a transfer either an automatic sit out for any player. Way to much transferring going on and if you want to transfer then sit out a year that way you can't transfer three or four times when you play four years. His insinuation that UT done something to Evina or Holly was mean to her is a lie total BS.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I think they need to make a transfer either an automatic sit out for any player. Way to much transferring going on and if you want to transfer then sit out a year that way you can't transfer three or four times when you play four years. His insinuation that UT done something to Evina or Holly was mean to her is a lie total BS.

Holly may have been a lousy coach, but I've never seen her integrity questioned, nor have I ever heard any of her players express ill-will toward her. Mimi Collins really did transfer out, because she was upset that Holly was fired.

 

[Volfan2012]

Holly may have been a lousy coach, but I've never seen her integrity questioned, nor have I ever heard any of her players express ill-will toward her. Mimi Collins really did transfer out, because she was upset that Holly was fired.

Holly was never mean to a player if anything they got away with a lot more than they should have. Holly fired Elzy because she thought she was to mean to players total BS. I'd like him to find one piece of any kind of evidence that UT has ever treated a player badly.

 

[Knox-a-rue]

Geno is a loser.

I wish Evina could transfer. I would feel bad for her if she went to UCONN.

I don't follow WNBA... Is she good enough?

 

[charlie_1]

Hard to understand, some like Shepard getting a waiver and others from SC, MD as well as Eva and others not getting a waver. The NCAA is really playing with the lives of these athletes. They should all be allowed to transfer and play. Too much confusion with the fans and when an athlete transfers, even they don't know if they will have to sit out a year.... terrible for all involved.

 

[Hoosier]

You care a lot. You wish you were them. They are still the program every measures themselves against, TN on the other hand is a iddle to bottom 1/2 SEC team that can;t get past the 2nd round of the tourney. They needed a charity case to get in last year & promptly showed why they shouldn't have been in.

Liar

 

[BowlBrother85]

Hard to understand, some like Shepard getting a waiver and others from SC, MD as well as Eva and others not getting a waver. The NCAA is really playing with the lives of these athletes. They should all be allowed to transfer and play. Too much confusion with the fans and when an athlete transfers, even they don't know if they will have to sit out a year.... terrible for all involved.

Where does this melodramatic sentiment come from? Is it really such a hardship to sit out one year following a transfer? As long as the student-athlete in question, still has a redshirt year (as Westbrook does), they don't even lose a season of eligibility after the transfer. The one year hold was put in place to deter student-athletes from transferring for arbitrary reasons - which is what is currently happening in women's basketball with this rash of transfers. There is a valid reason behind it and no, it doesn't destroy anyone's life.

 

[PointGuard]

Time will tell both on Evina and UCONN making the FF. I said last season and before Evina transferred that this was the season, of recent times, where the Lady Vols could give them a game. While the Vols aren't as strong this season as last UCONN lost almost 50% of its scoring to graduation and this years version won't be nearly as strong on defense the real reason they are usually as strong as they are. No one yet identified to play lock down defense.

The NCAA seems unstructured in it's decision making mostly because the parameters are never specific and the Committees seem inconsistent in their decisions. Jan 23, 2020 is going to be an exciting game day

The big deal about sitting out a season? If you are a player, you want to be on that court not cheering from the bench. That is a big deal

 

[IPleadInsanity]

Don’t know reasoning but does not seem equitable. Flame away, but she’s just an unhappy kid. Let her transfer and play. Any kid the same.

People hold that interview against her, but she just said a change needed to be made. Not change coaches, dismiss players, etc. And there did need to be a change.

Wish she had given Kellie a chance, but so what. Leave and be happy. Better than stay and be unhappy. For all involved.

per: Evina Westbrook’s transfer request is denied

The reasoning is if they make it easy to transfer there will be a flood of transfers every year. Coaches would not be able to field a team without holes. I think these rules will change along with the new rules on student revenues as they go hand in hand. It will be all about the player instead of the team from this point forward.

 

[PRG]

Where does this melodramatic sentiment come from? Is it really such a hardship to sit out one year following a transfer? As long as the student-athlete in question, still has a redshirt year (as Westbrook does), they don't even lose a season of eligibility after the transfer. The one year hold was put in place to deter student-athletes from transferring for arbitrary reasons - which is what is currently happening in women's basketball with this rash of transfers. There is a valid reason behind it and no, it doesn't destroy anyone's life.

She wants to have a coach to prepare her for the WNBA ! So now she has GENO! Now she has three years to get prepared !
I thought that is what she wanted ? Now she has it !!!!

 

[BowlBrother85]

Time will tell both on Evina and UCONN making the FF. I said last season and before Evina transferred that this was the season, of recent times, where the Lady Vols could give them a game. While the Vols aren't as strong this season as last UCONN lost almost 50% of its scoring to graduation and this years version won't be nearly as strong on defense the real reason they are usually as strong as they are. No one yet identified to play lock down defense.

The NCAA seems unstructured in it's decision making mostly because the parameters are never specific and the Committees seem inconsistent in their decisions. Jan 23, 2020 is going to be an exciting game day

The big deal about sitting out a season? If you are a player, you want to be on that court not cheering from the bench. That is a big deal

For one season? No, it's not a big deal. This isn't the NCAA "playing with lives". Michelle Marciniak sat out a year after transferring from Notre Dame to Tennessee in 1992. She still wound up winning a National Championship in 1996 that she wouldn't have otherwise had without sitting out a year, and she went on to a professional career as well. Judging by the number of Sheex commercials I've been seeing, her life has managed just fine, despite the unjust horror of having to sit out the 1992-93 women's college basketball season.

 

[charlie_1]

Where does this melodramatic sentiment come from? Is it really such a hardship to sit out one year following a transfer? As long as the student-athlete in question, still has a redshirt year (as Westbrook does), they don't even lose a season of eligibility after the transfer. The one year hold was put in place to deter student-athletes from transferring for arbitrary reasons - which is what is currently happening in women's basketball with this rash of transfers. There is a valid reason behind it and no, it doesn't destroy anyone's life.

It affects their lives because if they stay the extra year, then they lose making money playing in the pros that year. And athletes have a limited time to make money. Any athlete that makes the choice to transfer has a good reason. Perhaps it is playing time or other reasons but it what they feel is best for them. Why force them to stay in a bad situation. If the schools want them to stay or isn't helping them realize their potential, they should be allowed to transfer without a penalty. I know there are several views on this but the athletes should at least be told if they will be able to play if they transfer, so they can make an informed decision.

 

[Coach Jumper]

It affects their lives because if they stay the extra year, then they lose making money playing in the pros that year. And athletes have a limited time to make money. Any athlete that makes the choice to transfer has a good reason. Perhaps it is playing time or other reasons but it what they feel is best for them. Why force them to stay in a bad situation. If the schools want them to stay or isn't helping them realize their potential, they should be allowed to transfer without a penalty. I know there are several views on this but the athletes should at least be told if they will be able to play if they transfer, so they can make an informed decision.

It affects many lives

 

[PG1]

So if you transfer to ND you get to play! Anywhere else no! If you are a Good QB and you transfer you get to play any other position probably not! Easy to see

 

[BowlBrother85]

It affects their lives because if they stay the extra year, then they lose making money playing in the pros that year. And athletes have a limited time to make money. Any athlete that makes the choice to transfer has a good reason. Perhaps it is playing time or other reasons but it what they feel is best for them. Why force them to stay in a bad situation. If the schools want them to stay or isn't helping them realize their potential, they should be allowed to transfer without a penalty. I know there are several views on this but the athletes should at least be told if they will be able to play if they transfer, so they can make an informed decision.

But they don't have to stay the fifth year, if they don't want to. Women can make themselves eligible for the WNBA draft after 3 years (I think that is still the rule) or opt to go play overseas. And not every athlete has a "good" reason... of course, that depends on how you define "good". The fact is, the most common reason players transfer is over playing time. Nobody has to stay in any situation they don't wish to... they just have to sit out one season at their next destination, unless they can get a waiver. That is not the end of the freaking world.

 

[Smallvol#1]

You are correct about the timing of the statement and that it was made by Westbrook's mother. And I agree that it was fairly obvious that Evina would be leaving the program at that point. However, I wouldn't classify Evina's response to the repeated questions of the reporters as an outburst. My recollection was that she was reticent in her initial response and when they pressed she made an unfortunate comment. I actually blame the coaching staff and administration more for that than a young player who had just suffered an agonizing defeat. In my opinion, reporters should never have been allowed into the locker room to hound any of the players under those circumstances and the AD staff should have put an end to it when they saw what was going on.

Jim

As ever, Sir Jim, you are spot on. Intelligent, reasoned, and compassionate response. I wish I could like your post a thousand times.

Listen to the video people; hear who was pressing an emotional kid again and again. Hear what she finally said after that pressure. The UT staff and the “reporter” were at fault. Evina finally responded to a person who kept pushing her in a situation she could not leave and she could not rudely respond. Someone should have stepped in and stopped it.

Yes, you are exactly right.

 

[Voltopia]

So let me get this straight. A player ditches Tennessee, and transfers to Tennessee's biggest rival, a school whose coach will happily throw Tennessee under the bus to both help him get what he wants or just plain ol' entertain himself, and I'm supposed to feel what exactly? Because I know what I feel.

If you decide to leave a school and go to another, you sit out a year. That's the rule. Waivers are normally about hardship. She just wanted to leave. That's not a hardship.