Expanding not the best option for SEC?

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With the Pac-10 adding another cupcake school with Colorado, their conference schedule didn't getting any hard. Of the schools being kicked around to join the SEC (TX, OK, FSU, UM, TXAM) none are cupcake schools and on any given year could be playing for the NC. Is it wise to add these schools when the BCS will place 2 undefeated teams (OSU vs USC) ahead of a 1 loss team from the SEC? Wouldn't this hurt our chances at going to the big dance?
 
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If you want to run with the big dogs, you have to get off the porch!!!...I say!!

Makes me sick when some fans don't want to play good teams! Good competition is what makes you better!!
 
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TEX_VOLFAN said:
If you want to run with the big dogs, you have to get off the porch!!!...I say!!

Makes me sick when some fans don't want to play good teams! Good competition is what makes you better!!
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One can find good competition outside of the conference.
 
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jwells said:
One can find good competition outside of the conference.
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I'm not saying UT is shying away from other teams, I'm talking about the SEC as a whole. If the PAC-10 gets bigger and better, the SEC should follow suit with bigger and better teams. We are the top of NCAA football beacause we put out a better product/talent than the rest! Put up or shut up!!!
 
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TEX_VOLFAN said:
I'm not saying UT is shying away from other teams, I'm talking about the SEC as a whole. If the PAC-10 gets bigger and better, the SEC should follow suit with bigger and better teams. We are the top of NCAA football beacause we put out a better product/talent than the rest! Put up or shut up!!!
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Alabama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, Tennessee, and Auburn are plenty strong for me. I think UT and Auburn would be the two teams to suffer the most if we brought in even more powerhouses. Our chances of doing well in the SEC would plummet.
 
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It is all about TV money and football. There is zero reason to bring in Georgia Tech or Clemson as the SEC already dominates those TV markets. I would think getting more market share in Miami would be better than the Florida panhandle, an area already filled with SEC fans. If expansion must happen, I think a Texas team is a must. Two teams would be even better. Plus, that will open up Texas recruiting more to SEC schools. Take a look at Mizzou's roster and notice all of the Texas kids.
 
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As long as the BCS views a loss over quality wins and will put a BIg 10 champ against a Pac 10 champ who have honestly played nobody, I think we really don't need to raise our odds of getting one loss.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Yeah We all see how well UF avoids that....Expanding would eliminate that almost completely. :good!:
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It would also work in reverse. If the SEC didn't expand, it would put more of a premium on out of conference schedules. I'm much more in favor of that.
 
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BigOrangePredsFan said:
It is all about TV money and football. There is zero reason to bring in Georgia Tech or Clemson as the SEC already dominates those TV markets. I would think getting more market share in Miami would be better than the Florida panhandle, an area already filled with SEC fans. If expansion must happen, I think a Texas team is a must. Two teams would be even better. Plus, that will open up Texas recruiting more to SEC schools. Take a look at Mizzou's roster and notice all of the Texas kids.
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I agreed with most of what you said, up to these 2 statements. Recruiting in Texas would become HARDER, because you wouldnt have the "Come play in the SEC vs Whatever Conference Texas is playing in" card to play. They would be playing in the same/best whatever adjective you what to use to describe the SEC. And the % of players on Mizzou's roster is more related to proximity than there being a pipeline into TX due to being in the same conference.
 
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IMO if the SEC does expand it should grab texas a&m. Here's why: MONEY. Adding them would add TV markets such as Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and everywhere in between. The SEC is already the most profitable conference in the country and I think this will help keep it that way. This would benefit everyone in the conference because everyone would get more money.

I also think that this wouldn't affect us at very much because any texas teams they add would be put in the SEC west and we would wouldn't have to play them year in and year out.
 
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chicago_vol said:
IMO if the SEC does expand it should grab texas a&m. Here's why: MONEY. Adding them would add TV markets such as Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and everywhere in between. The SEC is already the most profitable conference in the country and I think this will help keep it that way. This would benefit everyone in the conference because everyone would get more money.

I also think that this wouldn't affect us at very much because any texas teams they add would be put in the SEC west and we would wouldn't have to play them year in and year out.
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We dont know how much it would add to the SEC coffers. The Big Ten was looking to expand to get a bigger TV market (demand) for its own Big Ten Network. Adding teams would add areas/viewers which equals more money. The SEC deal is with ESPN/CBS. Both are already broadcast nationally. So it wouldnt add areas for the SEC to add more teams. You would get more viewers, but that money only makes ESPN/CBS more $, not the SEC directly. Now with that said, most believe that there are stipulations in place to protect the networks/SEC in the event the conference adds or loses teams, but no one knows for sure how much.
 
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Volfan8282 said:
It would also work in reverse. If the SEC didn't expand, it would put more of a premium on out of conference schedules. I'm much more in favor of that.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but UF could still pick up cupcake teams if the SEC didn't expand.
 
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ShanMan said:
We dont know how much it would add to the SEC coffers. The Big Ten was looking to expand to get a bigger TV market (demand) for its own Big Ten Network. Adding teams would add areas/viewers which equals more money. The SEC deal is with ESPN/CBS. Both are already broadcast nationally. So it wouldnt add areas for the SEC to add more teams. You would get more viewers, but that money only makes ESPN/CBS more $, not the SEC directly. Now with that said, most believe that there are stipulations in place to protect the networks/SEC in the event the confernce adds or loses teams, but no one knows for sure or how much.
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It would eventually make the SEC more money when they go back to renegotiate!! I promise you that!!
 
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TEX_VOLFAN said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but UF could still pick up cupcake teams if the SEC didn't expand.
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They could. But, it would hurt their chances if the PAC-10 adds teams like Texas and Oklahoma. Right now, it doesn't hurt them that much b/c even with those cupcake teams, they still have a comparatively difficult schedule just due to being in the SEC.
 
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TEX_VOLFAN said:
It would eventually make the SEC more money when they go back to renegotiate!! I promise you that!!
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You could be right, the fact is no one (that Ive seen at least) knows for sure. I would tend to agree...adding a Texas A&M should be worth more than adding USF. But who knows how the contract is drawn up.
 
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Hey smart guys. Why do Texas and Oklahoma prefer the Pac 10 to the SEC? Is it because they have not been pursued at all by the SEC, or do they not want the competion. It seems like the travel to play in the Pac 10 would suck. The closest Pac 10 teams are Arizona and ASU. Thats about a 2500 mile round trip just to play the two closest teams. I suppose Colorodo joining makes them closer. I just heard about them.
 
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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
With the Pac-10 adding another cupcake school with Colorado, their conference schedule didn't getting any hard. Of the schools being kicked around to join the SEC (TX, OK, FSU, UM, TXAM) none are cupcake schools and on any given year could be playing for the NC. Is it wise to add these schools when the BCS will place 2 undefeated teams (OSU vs USC) ahead of a 1 loss team from the SEC? Wouldn't this hurt our chances at going to the big dance?
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You must have not paid attention to the last 6 years of college football. Outside of Auburn being robbed, the SEC has gotten its fair share of opportunities to win titles... and they have cashed in on those opportunities every time.

BTW, check out 2007 LSU Tigers' record...
 
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I think adding the Aggies and OK state (or Mizzou or Kansas) to the west. And FSU and VT (or GT or Clemson)to the east would be fun. All good to really good programs.
 
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BigOrangePredsFan said:
It is all about TV money and football. There is zero reason to bring in Georgia Tech or Clemson as the SEC already dominates those TV markets. I would think getting more market share in Miami would be better than the Florida panhandle, an area already filled with SEC fans. If expansion must happen, I think a Texas team is a must. Two teams would be even better. Plus, that will open up Texas recruiting more to SEC schools. Take a look at Mizzou's roster and notice all of the Texas kids.
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I keep seeing this posted and hearing people say this, but I can't see the likes of UF, Bammer and UGA plundering or taking advantage of TX when they have plenty of homegrown talent in their own states that are just as good. I think the status quo will not change significantly in terms of recruiting...
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I think adding the Aggies and OK state (or Mizzou or Kansas) to the west. And FSU and VT (or GT or Clemson)to the east would be fun. All good to really good programs.
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You really think it would be fun to play Florida, Georgia, VT, FSU, and potentially Alabama still in addition to our upcoming out of conference schedule? We have different views of "fun."
 
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