Failure could unleash a trillion-gallon wave of water, killing up to 500,000

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Iraq dam failure could kill up to 500,000 - Washington Post - MSNBC.com

AT THE MOSUL DAM, Iraq - The largest dam in Iraq is in serious danger of an imminent collapse that could unleash a trillion-gallon wave of water, possibly killing thousands of people and flooding two of the largest cities in the country, according to new assessments by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and other U.S. officials.
Even in a country gripped by daily bloodshed, the possibility of a catastrophic failure of the Mosul Dam has alarmed American officials, who have concluded that it could lead to as many as 500,000 civilian deaths by drowning Mosul under 65 feet of water and parts of Baghdad under 15 feet, said Abdulkhalik Thanoon Ayoub, the dam manager. "The Mosul dam is judged to have an unacceptable annual failure probability," in the dry wording of an Army Corps of Engineers draft report.
At the same time, a U.S. reconstruction project to help shore up the dam in northern Iraq has been marred by incompetence and mismanagement, according to Iraqi officials and a report by a U.S. oversight agency to be released Tuesday. The reconstruction project, worth at least $27 million, was not intended to be a permanent solution to the dam's deficiencies.
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Thoughts?
 
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What a shocker. Behind the curtain arguing between Iraq and US officials about money and execution of projects. Iraq officials in 2006 concluded it was safe....idiots

I feel bad for the Corps in a way because I understand how frustrating it is dealing with many top Iraqi men. They just don't get it. They don't understand what it takes to keep a city safe. You want to slam your head into a wall most of the time

They are a different slew of people.
 
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I was going to blame global warming, but since that is also Bush's fault, it would have been redundant.
 
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U-T said:
What a shocker. Behind the curtain arguing between Iraq and US officials about money and execution of projects. Iraq officials in 2006 concluded it was safe....idiots

I feel bad for the Corps in a way because I understand how frustrating it is dealing with many top Iraqi men. They just don't get it. They don't understand what it takes to keep a city safe. You want to slam your head into a wall most of the time

They are a different slew of people.
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Sounds similar to New Orleans in some ways. Not sure incompetence is restricted to those "slew" of people.
 
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allvol123 said:
Sounds similar to New Orleans in some ways. Not sure incompetence is restricted to those "slew" of people.
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The only similarity between the two situations is that both groups of people in both situations (Iraqis/American, Locals/Feds) blame the other.

Outside of that, are completely different situations.
 
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Yes. Corrupt/incompetent people in charge of securing the safety of people from floods, while people living in the flood prone area believe everything will turn out ok. Competely different.

But yea, other than: water, flooding, big cities, corruption, and incomeptence it is completely different.
 
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allvol123 said:
Yes. Corrupt/incompetent people in charge of securing the safety of people from floods, while people living in the flood prone area believe everything will turn out ok. Competely different.

But yea, other than: water, flooding, big cities, corruption, and incomeptence it is completely different.
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What gets me is, why do the people live in the flood prone area? I just dont understand, I know I wouldn't.
 
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myrobbins7 said:
What gets me is, why do the people live in the flood prone area? I just dont understand, I know I wouldn't.
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For the same reason people continue living on the Gulf Coast, along the Florida borders, in Tornado prone zones, and along the California earthquake lines.

Lived in New Orleans for years. Wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
 
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Yes. Corrupt/incompetent people in charge of securing the safety of people from floods, while people living in the flood prone area believe everything will turn out ok. Competely different.
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Been numerous incidents throughout the world with water failure. Using that broad terms you could connect them all yet very few if any are the same nor do they fail for the same reasons.

The Mosul Dam and it's history (especially within the Baghdad area) have very few if any similarities to the New Orleans Levees whether we want to talk about previous work done, government interaction within it, or even current/past problems. The incompetence of the Iraqi's and a lot of their local governments are really night/day different from local incompetence of American city governments, including New Orleans. Just a different world with different problems around Iraq.

A slew of local cases I personally dealt with got derailed after two local judges were killed bringing the total body count on judges to around 20-25 (Sorry, I am not EXACTLY sure on the number)....things of that nature that are not typically found in the US
 
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So if the damn collapses it will destroy the city of Mosul? Mosul hasn't exactly been a hotbead of U.S. support has it?
 
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yah, we need that water over here in GA. and all of you are wrong about the cause. You should have listened to Al Gore, the party responsible is.....






MAN BEAR PIG!!!!!
 
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something bad happening in Iraq? that sucks...............:popcorn:hey you guys see the Yanks hired Girardi?
 
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so if the terrorist drown, do they still go to see allah and get their virgins in hell, or do they just go to hell
 
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TennTradition said:
Seriously...I yield to you on most matters Iraq...but that would blow my mind.
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why? you don't really buy the whole Iraq had no terrorist links garbage, do you? while it may not be what we expected, to presume it doesn't exist is naive. heck, Osama even took a huge sect of the enemy into his fold.
 
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