Faith-based predictions for 2011 (CNN)

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I found number 9 interesting. I thought the tea party was mostly about fiscal conservatism and more apathetic about the cultural conservatism.
 
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rjd970 said:
I found number 9 interesting. I thought the tea party was mostly about fiscal conservatism and more apathetic about the cultural conservatism.
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I think that is true for it's members that kind of got it all started, but there is clearly a social conservatism splash-over now that it has grown to the size it has, simply because of the sort of people who have hopped on that bandwagon over the past year.
 
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I could really get on board with it if the TP social views were a little more liberal I guess. The fiscal viewpoint makes some sense to me.
 
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Agreed. The second somebody starts getting overtly religious or anti-gay, I'm out though.
 
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rjd970 said:
I found number 9 interesting. I thought the tea party was mostly about fiscal conservatism and more apathetic about the cultural conservatism.
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True fiscal conservatism is the priority of a minority of the TP. Certainly, for some it is by far the highest priority. But many talk that talk to disguise their real agenda, which is largely social policy, religious fundamentalism, etc.
 
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lawgator1 said:
True fiscal conservatism is the priority of a minority of the TP. Certainly, for some it is by far the highest priority. But many talk that talk to disguise their real agenda, which is largely social policy, religious fundamentalism, etc.
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Just press CTRL+V and click post.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
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Well, does that come with any perks? If I have to go to church, I want a reserved back row pew so as not to disturb the faithful flock with my guffawing.
 
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lawgator1 said:
True fiscal conservatism is the priority of a minority of the TP. Certainly, for some it is by far the highest priority. But many talk that talk to disguise their real agenda, which is largely social policy, religious fundamentalism, etc.
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You seem to imply that there is a conscious effort to push social policy. I disagree. On the contrary, I don't think they can help it. It's just too innate to their belief structure, and they happen to also care about fiscal conservatism.
 
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IPorange said:
You seem to imply that there is a conscious effort to push social policy. I disagree. On the contrary, I don't think they can help it. It's just too innate to their belief structure, and they happen to also care about fiscal conservatism.
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I see no difference.
 
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lawgator1 said:
True fiscal conservatism is the priority of a minority of the TP. Certainly, for some it is by far the highest priority. But many talk that talk to disguise their real agenda, which is largely social policy, religious fundamentalism, etc.
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reading people's minds again. why pray tell are these religious zelots focusing on the fiscal conservative part of their platform is their primary concern is hating on gays and getting rid of abortion.
 
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droski said:
reading people's minds again. why pray tell are these religious zelots focusing on the fiscal conservative part of their platform is their primary concern is hating on gays and getting rid of abortion.
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It's not hard to read their minds when they announce that what they want to do is vote down health care reform in the first week and then spend the rest of the year doing investigations into Obama's birth certificate and hounding the DOJ about the black panthers.

I suppose the latter of those two aren't as much about typical value-laden stuff they like to go on and on about, though it is pandering to the conspiracy theorists and stars and bars types, which tend to go hand in hand.
 
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IPorange said:
I found the Mormon individual's comment concerning Huckabee interesting. I had forgotten about how hard he slammed Mormons in 2008.
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I recall one or two comments regarding Romney or the Mormon church, and iirc Huckabee also extended an apology, but I don't recall Huckabee "slamming" their beliefs or anyone elses for that matter. That typically was not his style.

lawgator1 said:
It's not hard to read their minds when they announce that what they want to do is vote down health care reform in the first week and then spend the rest of the year doing investigations into Obama's birth certificate and hounding the DOJ about the black panthers.

I suppose the latter of those two aren't as much about typical value-laden stuff they like to go on and on about, though it is pandering to the conspiracy theorists and stars and bars types, which tend to go hand in hand.
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I must have missed these news articles as well. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to where I could read a little more as to what the TP's priorities are.
 
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lawgator1 said:
It's not hard to read their minds when they announce that what they want to do is vote down health care reform in the first week and then spend the rest of the year doing investigations into Obama's birth certificate and hounding the DOJ about the black panthers.

I suppose the latter of those two aren't as much about typical value-laden stuff they like to go on and on about, though it is pandering to the conspiracy theorists and stars and bars types, which tend to go hand in hand.
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shooting down healthcare reform isn't about fiscal responsibility? you can't be serious.

as for the latter. LINK?
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
I recall one or two comments regarding Romney or the Mormon church, and iirc Huckabee also extended an apology, but I don't recall Huckabee "slamming" their beliefs or anyone elses for that matter. That typically was not his style.



I must have missed these news articles as well. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to where I could read a little more as to what the TP's priorities are.
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droski said:
shooting down healthcare reform isn't about fiscal responsibility? you can't be serious.

as for the latter. LINK?
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What's his name -- Cantor -- and others have been talking about the health care vote in the first week (maybe a little more) followed by investigation panels on the administration.

From Fox, itself:

House GOP Will Warm up on Obamacare Ban

"[W]atch what happens. As part of our pledge, we said that we would bring up a vote to repeal health care early. That will happen before the president's State of the Union address."

-- Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI), incoming chairman of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, on “Fox News Sunday”

Power Play can hear the pitter patter of little wingtips as the largest freshman class in generations scurries across Capitol Hill.

And while there will be lots to do in the year ahead, the first orders of business will be symbolic as the House prepares to get underway on Wednesday. The symbolic acts will include a vote on a bill to repeal President Obama’s national health care law.

This is not exactly news since most Republicans ran on such a repeal and party leaders in Congress have been pledging votes on the subject. But the promise from Rep. Fred Upton, whose committee would likely launch such a measure, that the repeal plan will be voted on this month suggests that Republicans are not going to waste any time.

Leadership aides tell Power Play that the opening days of the Republican House will be a flurry of activity, and that the healthcare repeal vote will be the centerpiece.

“We’re going to get to work right away on fixing what Democrats have broken,” one aide said. “That’s what the American people elected us to do.”

The health care vote will act as a sort of orientation process for the more than 80 freshmen members. The legislation, expected to pass with near-unanimous support from the House Republican caucus, is a dead letter in the Senate.

But the legislation will give the Republican newbies a chance to fulfill a campaign promise and learn how the process works and why people like Fred Upton matter so much to their legislative aspirations.

The other big focus in the first week will be on spending cuts. Republican leaders will offer a bushel basket load of cuts ranging from the small but politically satisfying (de-funding National Public Radio) to the large and complicated (stripping money from Obama’s health care law).

Again, these votes aren’t expected to produce new laws, but will help new members get acclimated, build party unity and start applying pressure to the Senate and Obama.


Read more: RNC Debate Will Be Ugly; Obamacare Up First - FoxNews.com​
 
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You failed to address where the R's would be researching the Birth Certificate nonstop...
 
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lawgator1 said:
What's his name -- Cantor -- and others have been talking about the health care vote in the first week
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ok and this is them showing their obvious racism rather than their fiscal responsibility platform how exactly?
 
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