Favorite 3rd party candidate of all time?

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OrangeEmpire said:
Boxing a navy seaman and losing sight in his eye and never complaining about it did it for me.

Also the games he played and forced politicians to play. His line game is good laughs.
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"I have not been able to think out any solution of the terrible problem offered by the presence of the Negro on this continent, but of one thing I am sure, and that is that inasmuch as he is here and can neither be killed nor driven away, the only wise and honorable and Christian thing to do is to treat each black man and each white man strictly on his merits as a man, giving him no more and no less than he shows himself worthy to have."


hmmm.

interesting.
 
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I'd say my favorite has to be this guy.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o-TeMHys0&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/YOUTUBE]
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Boxing a navy seaman and losing sight in his eye and never complaining about it did it for me.

Also the games he played and forced politicians to play. His line game is good laughs.
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2 soldiers from the 24th Infantry Regiment had been sent to get more ammo for the guys crawling up San Juan Heights. TR stopped them at gun point and accused them of desertion in the face of the enemy. They tried to explain but got no where so they went back toward the front line, then circled back around him, got the ammo and hurried back up to the fight.

After B Co of the 24th had taken the block house and secured the area they saw TR and his Rough Riders on Kettle Hill down below them. A while later he came riding up and claimed victory for the US, press agent in tow.

TR went home to a victory parade, the 24th was posted to another part of the island to tend to the soldiers stricken with malaria.

If you aren't aware, the 24th was one of the regiments comprised of Black soldiers.

I had a lot of respect for TR and think he was one of the better Presidents, but I lost respect when I learned more about him.
 
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YorkVol said:
2 soldiers from the 24th Infantry Regiment had been sent to get more ammo for the guys crawling up San Juan Heights. TR stopped them at gun point and accused them of desertion in the face of the enemy. They tried to explain but got no where so they went back toward the front line, then circled back around him, got the ammo and hurried back up to the fight.

After B Co of the 24th had taken the block house and secured the area they saw TR and his Rough Riders on Kettle Hill down below them. A while later he came riding up and claimed victory for the US, press agent in tow.

TR went home to a victory parade, the 24th was posted to another part of the island to tend to the soldiers stricken with malaria.

If you aren't aware, the 24th was one of the regiments comprised of Black soldiers.

I had a lot of respect for TR and think he was one of the better Presidents, but I lost respect when I learned more about him.
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Tends to happen a lot
 
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YorkVol said:
2 soldiers from the 24th Infantry Regiment had been sent to get more ammo for the guys crawling up San Juan Heights. TR stopped them at gun point and accused them of desertion in the face of the enemy. They tried to explain but got no where so they went back toward the front line, then circled back around him, got the ammo and hurried back up to the fight.

After B Co of the 24th had taken the block house and secured the area they saw TR and his Rough Riders on Kettle Hill down below them. A while later he came riding up and claimed victory for the US, press agent in tow.

TR went home to a victory parade, the 24th was posted to another part of the island to tend to the soldiers stricken with malaria.

If you aren't aware, the 24th was one of the regiments comprised of Black soldiers.

I had a lot of respect for TR and think he was one of the better Presidents, but I lost respect when I learned more about him.
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Yeah, there is definitely a dark side to the man. As I mentioned in a previous post, he was very much the racist and "carrier" of the "white man's burden," as was the case for many white politicians and intellectuals at the time. While I've never heard the exact story you just related, I have heard before that a lot of his "hero" image was fabricated at San Juan. Your story makes a lot of sense then. However, we still have the other side of Roosevelt, the one that I related about his speech and the one that Orange Empire also related. Suffice it to say that the man was just a morally ambiguous, highly polarizing and provocative figure. I'm sure he was no bastion of moral integrity (from today's standpoint), but he still had some admirable qualities that we can appreciate even today.
 
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Im not defending TR, but it is comforting in general to find out heroes/historical figures were human.

Like the book on Washington An imperfect god
 
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volprof said:
Yeah, there is definitely a dark side to the man. As I mentioned in a previous post, he was very much the racist and "carrier" of the "white man's burden," as was the case for many white politicians and intellectuals at the time. While I've never heard the exact story you just related, I have heard before that a lot of his "hero" image was fabricated at San Juan. Your story makes a lot of sense then. However, we still have the other side of Roosevelt, the one that I related about his speech and the one that Orange Empire also related. Suffice it to say that the man was just a morally ambiguous, highly polarizing and provocative figure. I'm sure he was no bastion of moral integrity (from today's standpoint), but he still had some admirable qualities that we can appreciate even today.
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I did my master's thesis on the 24th Infantry Regiment and attempted to compare their treatment to some modern social issues in the military (i.e. women and gays). TR was my favorite until I got to this part of my research, now it is really more love/hate. Human is a good way to put it.
 
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