FBI going Around the NCAA

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Reading between the lines here, it could be interesting to see if there isn’t some findings of NCAA officials being bought off.

Generally, this type of investigation would have included the NCAA. But it caught them off guard. The FBI must have had reasons to suspect corruption. It is very unlike a federal agency not to partner with other institutions unless there is a reason.
 
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UneducatedGuess said:
Reading between the lines here, it could be interesting to see if there isn’t some findings of NCAA officials being bought off.

Generally, this type of investigation would have included the NCAA. But it caught them off guard. The FBI must have had reasons to suspect corruption. It is very unlike a federal agency not to partner with other institutions unless there is a reason.
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Wasn't one of the clothing execs an ex NCAA official?
 
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UneducatedGuess said:
Reading between the lines here, it could be interesting to see if there isn’t some findings of NCAA officials being bought off.

Generally, this type of investigation would have included the NCAA. But it caught them off guard. The FBI must have had reasons to suspect corruption. It is very unlike a federal agency not to partner with other institutions unless there is a reason.
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The NCAA is not a government agency. They aren't working with or against them. The crimes these people comittied just happen to be NCAA violations. The Feds aren't trying to clean up college sports.
 
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volfanhill said:
The NCAA is not a government agency. They aren't working with or against them. The crimes these people comittied just happen to be NCAA violations. The Feds aren't trying to clean up college sports.
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NCAA oversees millions in distribution to universities.
 
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This about federal corruption, fraud, and tax evasion. FBI could care less about NCAA and their rules. They are hitting Adidas today. Can’t wait until they hit Nike.

The involvement with the financial counselors is going to be very interesting.

The most significant signs in the near future is who goes silent all of a sudden.
 
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I heard yesterday that the NCAA took the case to the FBI. They had informants come forward and didn't have the resources both legally and in manpower to handle the case.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I heard yesterday that the NCAA took the case to the FBI. They had informants come forward and didn't have the resources both legally and in manpower to handle the case.
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If that's true. Then death penalty has to be the case for Louisville.
 
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volfanhill said:
The NCAA is not a government agency. They aren't working with or against them. The crimes these people comittied just happen to be NCAA violations. The Feds aren't trying to clean up college sports.
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No, but they've allowed a subculture of scum like aau to exploit kids. Get ready handlers and high school football camp circuits, you're on deck.
 
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volfanhill said:
The NCAA is not a government agency. They aren't working with or against them. The crimes these people comittied just happen to be NCAA violations. The Feds aren't trying to clean up college sports.
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Federal grants are given to these schools. I believe they started looking into them for misuse of federal funds not necessarily to clean up the sport
 
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bamawriter said:
I have a lot of trouble believing that.
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I think it may have been Pat Forde. I heard an interview on the radio so I wasn't sure. Keep in mind the NCAA can't wire tap, bug people or rooms. They can't supeona people or get warrants. If the NCAA determined that criminal activity was taking place, would it not be their obligation to turn it over to the FBI?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I think it may have been Pat Forde. I heard an interview on the radio so I wasn't sure. Keep in mind the NCAA can't wire tap, bug people or rooms. They can't supeona people or get warrants. If the NCAA determined that criminal activity was taking place, would it not be their obligation to turn it over to the FBI?
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Yes it would. NCAA cannot arrest folks for criminal activity.

If they were investigating and stumbled upon criminal activity they have to turn it over to those that handle such activity.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I think it may have been Pat Forde. I heard an interview on the radio so I wasn't sure. Keep in mind the NCAA can't wire tap, bug people or rooms. They can't supeona people or get warrants. If the NCAA determined that criminal activity was taking place, would it not be their obligation to turn it over to the FBI?
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I don't disagree with your premise, except that it assumes the NCAA is concerned with doing the right thing. The FBI's net is snagging former NCAA employees. The last thing the NCAA wants is for this case to wind up on their doorstep.
 
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bamawriter said:
I don't disagree with your premise, except that it assumes the NCAA is concerned with doing the right thing. The FBI's net is snagging former NCAA employees. The last thing the NCAA wants is for this case to wind up on their doorstep.
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So having knowledge of criminal activity, some of which may taint their own organization, and not reporting it to the proper authorities, not make them complicit?
 
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From what I heard the NCAA started the investigation but once they found out why big it was and how many people/programs where involved they turned to the FBI for help and resources.
 
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Hoosier_Vol said:
From what I heard the NCAA started the investigation but once they found out why big it was and how many people/programs where involved they turned to the FBI for help and resources.
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That's basically what I heard to. I think it may have started with a couple of informants going to the NCAA but I can't be for sure.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
So having knowledge of criminal activity, some of which may taint their own organization, and not reporting it to the proper authorities, not make them complicit?
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It would absolutely make them complicit. Understand, I'm not doubting that the NCAA might have known something. What I'm doubting is that they proactively sought assistance from the feds.
 
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NCAA is as corrupt as these coaches and scum bags the FBI caught. If the NCAA wanted to weaken the hold that AAu and shoe companies have they could easily make a few rules.

First, restrict recruiting off campus by all schools to only school sponsored events. Regular season and school sponsored camps. College coaches couldn't attend AAU events in the summer, events in places like Vegas.

Second, require academic standing to be on schedule before recruiting contact be made or offer of scholarship be made including passing of standardized tests. Kids who are woefully behind in soph and jr yr academically shouldn't be recruited for scholarships until they get on schedule.

NCAA has strengthened the hold AAU and shoe companies have by supporting the summer leagues/camps. It needs to go back to the high school level and coach. Jmo
 
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bamawriter said:
It would absolutely make them complicit. Understand, I'm not doubting that the NCAA might have known something. What I'm doubting is that they proactively sought assistance from the feds.
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Perhaps it was a rogue NCAA employee, doing it on their own.
 
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twoffo said:
Perhaps it was a rogue NCAA employee, doing it on their own.
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Perhaps.

But it appears that it all started with Blazer, the financial advisor who got busted for wire fraud and started working with the feds as an informant. The FBI made the initial findings thru him.
 
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since Lavar Ball coaches an AAU team and this has to do with rival shoe companies, wonder if he had a hand in this? Especially after Nike and Adidas turned him down for his shoe.... hmmm
 
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jpope9 said:
since Lavar Ball coaches an AAU team and this has to do with rival shoe companies, wonder if he had a hand in this? Especially after Nike and Adidas turned him down for his shoe.... hmmm
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He's not a dummy.
 
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