FBI going Around the NCAA

#26
#26
I do find one thing about all of this very strange, of all the schools being investigated Kentucky, Duke and Carolina haven't been mentioned. I don't suspect Duke to cheat as much as the other 2 but there is no way those schools are 100% clean and money isn't being passed around. Cal and Roy are both shady, always have been and always will be. Maybe someone at those schools tipped off some folks
 
#27
#27
Sin City Vol said:
I do find one thing about all of this very strange, of all the schools being investigated Kentucky, Duke and Carolina haven't been mentioned. I don't suspect Duke to cheat as much as the other 2 but there is no way those schools are 100% clean and money isn't being passed around. Cal and Roy are both shady, always have been and always will be. Maybe someone at those schools tipped off some folks
Click to expand...

I think it will include those schools. I think now that we are just seeing the first of all of this. I think it was the kid who was being recruited to Miami and the coach said the other shoe company came in with a higher offer. I'm not sure at this point, you can convince me that only some 5* recruits were taking $100k while some are just as clean as can be and end up at Kentucky or North Carolina just because
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#28
#28
Sin City Vol said:
I do find one thing about all of this very strange, of all the schools being investigated Kentucky, Duke and Carolina haven't been mentioned. I don't suspect Duke to cheat as much as the other 2 but there is no way those schools are 100% clean and money isn't being passed around. Cal and Roy are both shady, always have been and always will be. Maybe someone at those schools tipped off some folks
Click to expand...

My SIL is a huge UK fan. He said the day all this broke, Cal was posting pics of himself in Washington with senators. I asked him if it were members of the Judicial Committee?

And yes, he and other UK fans' responses to all of this are "Players come to UK because they know they'll go straight to the NBA. They get paid AFTER coming to school via their NBA contracts."

:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:
 
#29
#29
Sin City Vol said:
I do find one thing about all of this very strange, of all the schools being investigated Kentucky, Duke and Carolina haven't been mentioned. I don't suspect Duke to cheat as much as the other 2 but there is no way those schools are 100% clean and money isn't being passed around. Cal and Roy are both shady, always have been and always will be. Maybe someone at those schools tipped off some folks
Click to expand...

I think all of them are Nike schools, they just haven't gotten to them yet.
 
#30
#30
Sin City Vol said:
I do find one thing about all of this very strange, of all the schools being investigated Kentucky, Duke and Carolina haven't been mentioned. I don't suspect Duke to cheat as much as the other 2 but there is no way those schools are 100% clean and money isn't being passed around. Cal and Roy are both shady, always have been and always will be. Maybe someone at those schools tipped off some folks
Click to expand...

What the FBI did in this case was uncover an Adidas scheme, so only Adidas schools were implicated in it. They subpoenaed Nike's youth basketball group, so perhaps it could spread there.

Of course Kentucky, Duke, and Carolina cheat, and perhaps this is naive, but I wonder if all the big schools are up to a scheme like Louisville was up to. $100 handshakes and getting paid by boosters is one thing. Bribing coaches/disguising the source of the payments is another. The breaking of NCAA rules is rampant, but I question if all schools are committing felonies to recruit players.
 
#31
#31
InVOLuntary said:
I think it may have been Pat Forde. I heard an interview on the radio so I wasn't sure. Keep in mind the NCAA can't wire tap, bug people or rooms. They can't supeona people or get warrants. If the NCAA determined that criminal activity was taking place, would it not be their obligation to turn it over to the FBI?
Click to expand...


We've got a few blockheads who seem to think the NCAA is capable of carrying out an investigation like the FBI. Get real. The NCAA is a member-based collegiate sports organization, not a federal law enforcement agency. It doesn't have the manpower or legal authority to conduct multi-year investigations requiring wire taps and supeonas, etc. The NCAA is not capable of policing 220 Div. 1 schools (or whatever the number is) along with high-school coaches, agents, etc. And the FBI isn't going to pursue a case unless it thinks it is worthwhile, and so quite a lot of corruption falls into that gap. It is nearly impossible to clean up major-college football and basketball because there is too much money sloshing around--from network and conference TV contracts and pro sports contracts--and too much competition among coaches to win to maintain their absurd salaries. Major college football and BB have been out of hand for a long time, but I don't see much changing because they are a big part of American entertainment.
 
#33
#33
I wonder if the NCAA found out some of this, but knew that they either dont have the strength to go to after them. or they knew it was going to get too deep and this was the only way to bring some honesty back to the sport.
 
#34
#34
RollinVol said:
I wonder if the NCAA found out some of this, but knew that they either dont have the strength to go to after them. or they knew it was going to get too deep and this was the only way to bring some honesty back to the sport.
Click to expand...

Doesn't appear that way. It appears to have started with Blazer defrauding some existing clients, and then agreeing to help the feds, which subsequently exposed all of this mess.

Don't make the erroneous assumption that the NCAA actually wants "to bring some honesty back to the sport."
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#35
#35
I wonder if Baylor is going to be involved in this. They've been so shady in both football and basketball that I would imagine there's a darn good chance they are.
 
#36
#36
bamawriter said:
Doesn't appear that way. It appears to have started with Blazer defrauding some existing clients, and then agreeing to help the feds, which subsequently exposed all of this mess.

Don't make the erroneous assumption that the NCAA actually wants "to bring some honesty back to the sport."
Click to expand...

Yep. In that regard this whole deal is similar to how Miami got in trouble with Shapiro. He was running a Ponzi scheme that the FBI was interested in, and in the course of that investigation they stumbled upon illegal benefits to Miami players.
 
#37
#37
I think that I heard on the radio earlier this week that NCAA coaches are shocked that these issues are criminal violations. They are claiming that they had no idea that what the assistants were doing was wrong. I find that utterly impossible to believe.
 
#38
#38
drvenner said:
I think that I heard on the radio earlier this week that NCAA coaches are shocked that these issues are criminal violations. They are claiming that they had no idea that what the assistants were doing was wrong. I find that utterly impossible to believe.
Click to expand...

These head coaches will throw these assistance under the bus and then just keep running them over if it saves their jobs. They know what's going on, they just have someone else doing the dirty work for them.
 
#40
#40
Well, I'm shocked that it's a federal crime to give money to a college student. I do it all the time. I can see it's against NCAA rules, but federal law?
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top