Final list of Redshirts

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Johnson played on special teams all year and also played at the end of a few games.
 
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WriterVol said:
Here was my list of "redshirtable" players from several weeks back. Those with early playing time are eligible for medical redshirts, but they are not sure things, though I doubt there'd be that much trouble getting them.

R. Ferguson

J. Pickett - Transfer

R. Jenkins (injury)

W. Quinn - played 3 early games

B. Kendrick
M. Jackson
A. Sanders

A. Carson

M. Brown
J. Carr - played 3 early games
J. Miller - played 3 early games
K. Vickers

C. Maggitt
J. King

R. Jones
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R. Jones played later in the season so I wouldn't think he is eligible. Malik Brown also played in 3 early games.

I have seen this type of thread often and everyone seems to go back and forth about it. Would a sticky be helpful for this? Especially with the mega class coming in next year.

I would also love to hear from someone who really knows about medical red shirts. We all speculate that the 3 dl will get it. I hope it's not just wishful thinking. I am sure there is a date to apply for this and the NCAA rules on it.
 
#29
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Ace said:
Bynum May have red shirted last year, not sure
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Bynum blew his knee out before the 2012 season and I believe took a medical redshirt. I believe you can not redshirt and take a medical redshirt. He would have to apply for a 6th year of eligibility through the NCAA. Which can be done at any time throughout a college career and may have been done after last season.
 
#30
#30
I truly don't understand why it is such a high priority to redshirt. If the player turns out to be a great player, then chances are you only get two seasons with them playing. Look at Johnny football and Winston just to name a couple
 
#31
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Ace said:
Bynum May have red shirted last year, not sure
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Argh! You are correct. That's why I didn't have him on my list to begin with.

He can't redshirt again unless it's one of those 6th year medical deals down the road.
 
#32
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STL Vol Fan said:
R. Jones played later in the season so I wouldn't think he is eligible. Malik Brown also played in 3 early games.

I have seen this type of thread often and everyone seems to go back and forth about it. Would a sticky be helpful for this? Especially with the mega class coming in next year.

I would also love to hear from someone who really knows about medical red shirts. We all speculate that the 3 dl will get it. I hope it's not just wishful thinking. I am sure there is a date to apply for this and the NCAA rules on it.
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Behind the Blue Disk - NCAA.org

What are redshirting and grayshirting? Redshirting and grayshirting are delays in a student-athlete’s participation with a team. Typically, a student-athlete is eligible to compete in a certain sport for four years. However, a student-athlete may wait to compete for up to two years, extending his or her eligibility to five or six years. During a redshirt year, a student-athlete is signed to a team, enrolls at the start of a school’s academic year and practices, but does not compete. In a grayshirt situation, a student-athlete attends college classes but is not an official member of a team and does not practice or compete.
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Why would a student-athlete choose to redshirt or grayshirt? There are many reasons student-athletes choose to redshirt. They may want to gain a year of practice with the team or add size and strength before competing. They may redshirt if playing opportunities at their position are limited. If a student-athlete loses the majority of a season to injury, he or she may apply for a hardship waiver, known as a medical redshirt. Typically, student-athletes choose to grayshirt if they are injured just before college and need a full year to recuperate.
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From what I gather if they are granted a medical redshirt it acts as a hardship waiver as if the year never existed. And then acts as if their career resets.

Remaining Eligible - NCAA.org

Academic Waivers
The NCAA requires Divisions I and II student-athletes to make appropriate annual progress toward earning their degrees. This progress is measured in several slightly different ways in the two divisions, including credits earned toward a degree and minimum grade-point average requirements.When Division I or II student-athletes fall short of these academic requirements, an institution can pursue a “progress-toward-degree” waiver to restore eligibility for competition. To qualify for such a waiver, institutions must document the mitigating circumstances that caused the deficiency. A common circumstance is a student-athlete facing a serious medical issue or other personal hardship.

Most of these waiver requests are assigned to a staff member at the NCAA national office.

Staff members can approve, deny or conditionally approve a waiver request. The conditional approval means a student-athlete must meet certain requirements to remain eligible. An institution must demonstrate how the condition was met; if the student-athlete fails to meet the condition, the decision reverts to denial.
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STL Vol Fan said:
R. Jones played later in the season so I wouldn't think he is eligible. Malik Brown also played in 3 early games.

I have seen this type of thread often and everyone seems to go back and forth about it. Would a sticky be helpful for this? Especially with the mega class coming in next year.

I would also love to hear from someone who really knows about medical red shirts. We all speculate that the 3 dl will get it. I hope it's not just wishful thinking. I am sure there is a date to apply for this and the NCAA rules on it.
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Utsports.com doesn't show Brown for any playing time this year. They're usually pretty up-to-date.

You're right about Riyahd Jones. He played two late games. Thus, no redshirt for him this year--medical or otherwise.
 
#35
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ddubb76 said:
I truly don't understand why it is such a high priority to redshirt. If the player turns out to be a great player, then chances are you only get two seasons with them playing. Look at Johnny football and Winston just to name a couple
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Depth. Also, gives them an extra year to develop mentally and physically. We played a lot of the guys you're alluding to, such as Sutton and North. Not all of them can be studs out of the gate.
 
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#36
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ddubb76 said:
I truly don't understand why it is such a high priority to redshirt. If the player turns out to be a great player, then chances are you only get two seasons with them playing. Look at Johnny football and Winston just to name a couple
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It's not "redshirt or death," but only the absolutely elite players leave early for the NFL (save a few guys who just jump ship or flunk out). That leaves most of your team in an area where an extra year of eligibility could do them wonders. More size, strength, and endurance; more time to work on technique; and more time to learn schemes.

Heck, James Stone could have done with a year of college S&C before going out there, but that wasn't UT's luxury at the time.

If they're going to sit early in their careers anyway, might as well give them a fifth year if they want it.
 
#37
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WriterVol said:
With medical redshirts, there are specific rules about number of games and no games in the second half of the season. It was posted on here at some point.
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This is actually from an UGA site. But it seems to be helpful and they should follow the same rules as we do.

http://compliance.sports.uga.edu/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/NCAARuleEd-February-2012.pdf

Criteria for a Medical Hardship Waiver:
1.Injury or Illness must take place in the first half of the season.
2.The injury or illness results in an “incapacitating injury” as stated by a medical doctor.
3.The student-athlete could not have competed in 3 contests or dates of competition or 30% of contests or dates of competition (whichever is greater).
MEDICAL HARDSHIP WAIVERS WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW
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Championship vs. Non-Championship Segment
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Most team sports will use on the championship segment when considering the 30% threshold.
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You must consider both segments if both segments are considered for NCAA postseason participation (e.g. tennis, golf).
If a student-athlete only competes in the non-championship segment, do I need to submit a medical hardship waiver?
•Fall Team Sports: No
•Spring Team Sports: Yes
•Individuals Sports: Yes
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When can a Medical Hardship Waiver be filed?
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A Medical Hardship Waiver cannot be filed with the conference office until the season in question is over.
How do I apply for a waiver?
•You start the process by submitting a waiver request on the Compliance Website:
•Medical Hardship Request | UGA Athletic Association Compliance Department
MEDICAL HARDSHIP WAIVERS WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW
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#40
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ddubb76 said:
I truly don't understand why it is such a high priority to redshirt.
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Because less than 10% of the players UT signs each season go on to play in the NFL. Much better to get that 90%+ another year of maturity to reach their potential.

The "special" players get all the pub, but the foundation of D1 football programs are players who's athletic careers end when they graduate.
 
#41
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WriterVol said:
Utsports.com doesn't show Brown for any playing time this year. They're usually pretty up-to-date.

You're right about Riyahd Jones. He played two late games. Thus, no redshirt for him this year--medical or otherwise.
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You are right about Brown. Confusing myself. The box scores on ut sports.com is what I check. It lists who starts and everyone who played.
 
#43
#43
SmokeySC said:
lol .. So who actually redshirted this year ? #Confusedashell
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Jenkins-wr
Ferguson-qb
Vickers-dl
Sanders-ol
Kendrick-ol
Brown-dl

Are freshman who didn't play a snap.

Justin king, Marcus Jackson and Curt Maggit are upperclassman who didn't play a snap.

Hoping for others but these guys didn't step on the field.
 
#44
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pualsline said:
wait, wait, wait....so you are saying since we didn't play Ferguson against Kentucky he gets redshirted, and we get to have him for another season? Getting him 11 games of experience to play with instead of 1?
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Butch should've plaid him at UK!! We needed sumpin to hang are hats on durin the off season!!!

(Sarcasm meters checked here)
 
#47
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pualsline said:
wait, wait, wait....so you are saying since we didn't play Ferguson against Kentucky he gets redshirted, and we get to have him for another season? Getting him 11 games of experience to play with instead of 1?
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Crazy...right?
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#48
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ddubb76 said:
I truly don't understand why it is such a high priority to redshirt. If the player turns out to be a great player, then chances are you only get two seasons with them playing. Look at Johnny football and Winston just to name a couple[/QUOTE]

Did you pay much attention to what they did on the field as redshirt freshman.
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#49
#49
Carr and Wiesman played. King and Bynum Redshirted there Sophomore Years?? This list needs tightened up!
 
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